Josh Chapman gets medical redshirt

dayhiker

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Awesome. I thought medical redshirts didn't apply until the end of eligibilty, but, based on how they worded that, the rules must be different for freshman injuries.
 

P. C. Pachyderm

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Okay, so I used to think I understood this "medical redshirt" terminology until we had a big discussion about it on here a while back.

Let's see if I have it....

By "medical redshirt" for Chapman, we are speaking in sort of layman's terms to mean he has permission to use last year as his redshirt year even though he did play some.

Technically, a "medical redshirt" means someone who has already played four years, plus has already used his redshirt year, being granted a sixth year of eligibility. (Like that Heisman-winning quarterback at Oklahoma who got rolled by Saban and LSU in the national title game a few years ago ... his name escapes me at the moment. That was his sixth year, I believe.)

So am I right? Or not?

Either way, I'm glad Chapman still has four years to play for us. :)
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Okay, so I used to think I understood this "medical redshirt" terminology until we had a big discussion about it on here a while back.

Let's see if I have it....

By "medical redshirt" for Chapman, we are speaking in sort of layman's terms to mean he has permission to use last year as his redshirt year even though he did play some.

Technically, a "medical redshirt" means someone who has already played four years, plus has already used his redshirt year, being granted a sixth year of eligibility. (Like that Heisman-winning quarterback at Oklahoma who got rolled by Saban and LSU in the national title game a few years ago ... his name escapes me at the moment. That was his sixth year, I believe.)

So am I right? Or not?

Either way, I'm glad Chapman still has four years to play for us. :)
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gmart74

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i was always under the impression there is no such thing as a "medical redshirt".
Im sure it is semantics but it is a redshirt that was considered for medical reasons. You could also have a redshirt for financial or spiritual reasons (although no specific examples come to mind).

In practical terms the medical redshirt falls under the category of "unique situation" redshirts where a player has played at least one down in a season yet for some reason will be incapable of playing the vast majority of that season. A "normal situation" redshirt is one in which the player plays absolutely no downs that season and all athletes are eligible for one yr of this type of redshirt season.

am i close on this one?
 

gmart74

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it seems like the medical redshirt issue is as murky as the tuck rule in football, the offsides rule in soccer, the entire sport of rugby, and why tommy lasorda ever wore spandex all those years.
 

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From my understanding, by being granted a Medical Hardship Waiver he is still actually eligible for a true redshirt year that doesn't fall under the medical waiver. That is how you can get 6 to play 4.

Is that correct Bayou?
 

Stephen323

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There are two different things that are referred to as "medical redshirt". One is receiving an additional season of competition, and the other is being granted an additional (6th) year of eligibility.

In these cases, we are talking about getting an additional season of competition, which happens after the season in question. Situations such as Jason White and Antonio Carter involve an additional year of eligibility, and those are determined after eligibility has been used up.
 

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From my understanding, by being granted a Medical Hardship Waiver he is still actually eligible for a true redshirt year that doesn't fall under the medical waiver. That is how you can get 6 to play 4.

Is that correct Bayou?

Kind of, but not exactly. You start with a 5 year window in which you can play in 4 different seasons. If you play in part of your freshman season (for example) and then get a "medical redshirt" (additional season of competition), they are basically saying that the season you played in does not count against you. So you then have 4 years left to play in 4 seasons. In order to get another "medical redshirt" year, you would have to be granted a 6th year of eligibility, which only happens in limited cases.
 

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As stated above by Stephen, all this means is that Chapman has 4 years to play 4 seasons. He has 4 years of eligibility left instead of 3. He can’t “redshirt” again this year. The NCAA simply chose not to count the time Chapman spent on the field last season as an entire year of eligibility. Great news for us.
 

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It sounds like this has sifted down to where the rule, really the "two rules" are understood. The NCAA regs on what participation can be ignored have shifted and changed over the years...
 

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Interesting word you've come up with there, "debth." It sounds like a cross between "depth," and "debt." Makes a lot of sense in our case... :D
 

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Rivals article said:
According to the fall roster, Hanks and McCullough will be sophomores this fall, while Vlachos and Fanuzzi will be freshmen. All four played in a season-opening win against Western Carolina only.
So does this mean people have to quit making smart remarks about Fanuzzi's "blown" year? :)