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"Trump suffered the greatest defeat in the history of the world." -Donald J. Trump

President Donald Trump made a last-minute push on Monday night for Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin, a strong ally who is facing a tough re-election bid in a deep-red state that should be a shoo-in for Republicans.

"Here's the story," Trump told thousand of supporters ahead of Tuesday's election. "If you win, they are going to make it like, ho hum. And if you lose, they are going to say Trump suffered the greatest defeat in the history of the world. You can't let that happen to me!"
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Crimson1967 said:
Has anyone checked on Tidewater?
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I'm fine. Thanks for your concern.
The districts that consist largely of Ausländer (people who know nothing of the Commonwealth and to whom the Commonwealth means nothing) went Democrat.

My delegate and state senator won handily (58%-42% and 71%-28%), but then again, my county had gone something like 76%-24% for Bob Dole in 1996 so my county is a bit of an anomaly, in a beautiful, anachronistic way.
 
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Tidewater said:
Today's Democrats seem peculiarly focused on factors that Martin Luther King would probably have said are not relevant.
King seemed more focused on "the content of one's character."
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so you are questioning the content of roem's character? the other dems who won in virginia? or are you just attempting to co-opt mlk jrs' message as a broad based smear on democrats. that usually doesn't happen until february.
 
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92tide said:
wow. did not see that coming. do turtles actually sweat?
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The real shocker is that it was as close as it was. Bevin led an attempt to stop pensions for teachers. The state legislature attempted to hide the pension death in multiple bills that had nothing to do with education. So many teachers called out sick to protest at the capitol that school was cancelled in multiple counties. Bevins' response? "I guarantee you somewhere in Kentucky today, a child was sexually assaulted that was left at home because there was nobody there to watch them," He is also against legalized gambling. Funny how it is ok at horse tracks. He publicly stated that every day someone is committing suicide on a casino floor because of their gambling addiction. The attack on education is what cost him the race.
 
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Here is one issue I heard nothing of until after the election.
Democrats have announced they will ratify the Equal Rights Amendment.
37 states have ratified, so if Virginia makes 38, the ERA will be adopted.
“Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.”
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Wonderful and simple in theory. Unbelievably complex in practice.
Given how federal courts have misinterpreted and screwed up the XIV Amendment, this ERA amendment is going to be lifetime job security for millions of attorneys. There is no end to the unintended mischief this amendment will cause.

To the attorneys on the board, you're welcome.
 
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92tide said:
so you are questioning the content of roem's character? the other dems who won in virginia? or are you just attempting to co-opt mlk jrs' message as a broad based smear on democrats. that usually doesn't happen until february.
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No. You selected the person for particular attention. Why? Did you select this person because of his character or for some other characteristic?
Even if one accepts the assertion that a man can be a woman, that would still be an immutable characteristic, which, according to MLK's liberal view (which I support), would be irrelevant. Yet you selected this person for particular attention and not other Democrats.
 
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Tidewater said:
No. You selected the person for particular attention. Why? Did you select this person because of her character or for some other characteristic?
Even if one accepts the assertion that a man can be a woman, that would still be an immutable characteristic, which, according to MLK's liberal view (which I support), would be irrelevant. Yet you selected this person for particular attention and not other Democrats.
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fify.

you implied in your earlier thread that these virginia results were due to outside influences and a lack of understanding about the commonwealth. i was just wondering if she would be considered a foreigner who didn't understand the commonwealth. the characteristic that stands out to me is that she got re-elected, so the voters in her district seem to prefer her. i'm not sure if that is due to a lack of understanding about the commonwealth or not.

i'm glad to hear you support his liberal view
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
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Ratal said:
The real shocker is that it was as close as it was. Bevin led an attempt to stop pensions for teachers. The state legislature attempted to hide the pension death in multiple bills that had nothing to do with education. So many teachers called out sick to protest at the capitol that school was cancelled in multiple counties. Bevins' response? "I guarantee you somewhere in Kentucky today, a child was sexually assaulted that was left at home because there was nobody there to watch them," He is also against legalized gambling. Funny how it is ok at horse tracks. He publicly stated that every day someone is committing suicide on a casino floor because of their gambling addiction. The attack on education is what cost him the race.
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Agreed, he's an awful person who was widely disliked in KY. I don't think anyone here suggesting that Kentucky is magically a blue state now. But it should probably concern certain Republicans with low approval ratings that ticket-splitting is alive and well in 2019.
 
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92tide said:
you implied in your earlier thread that these virginia results were due to outside influences and a lack of understanding about the commonwealth.
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If you examine the counties with substantial non-native Virginian residents (i.e. northern Virginia, the Tidewater cities, Blacksburg and Charlottesville), there is a strong correlation with Democratic voting. Likewise, those counties with a majority of native Virginians tended to be strongly Republican. Correlation, however, is not causation. I do not know what the causation is, but Virginia was so closely associated with strict construction of federal powers that in the early nineteenth century, it was called "The Virginia School." I do not sense any particular attachment to that ideal in today's Democratic party.
i was just wondering if she would be considered a foreigner who didn't understand the commonwealth. the characteristic that stands out to me is that she got re-elected, so the voters in her district seem to prefer her. i'm not sure if that is due to a lack of understanding about the commonwealth or not.
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If a dude thinks he is a woman, and gets elected, my response is the classical liberal one: "So what? Why is his gender relevant to the question?" Likewise for race, class, gender, creed, sexual orientation, or country of origin (as long as the person naturalized). Things that are not relevant (and I would put race, class, gender, creed, sexual orientation, and country of origin in that category), deserve scant attention, unless there is some compelling reason to pay attention to it.
Today's left, on the other hand, is obsessed with those characteristics.
i'm glad to hear you support his liberal view
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I've always supported that liberal vision. I was raised that way and I have never had reason to reconsider it.
 
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TIDE-HSV said:
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Thanks. I was going to start a new thread for non-presidential 2020 elections, but keeping this one going is probably better.


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Tidewater said:
If you examine the counties with substantial non-native Virginian residents (i.e. northern Virginia, the Tidewater cities, Blacksburg and Charlottesville), there is a strong correlation with Democratic voting. Likewise, those counties with a majority of native Virginians tended to be strongly Republican. Correlation, however, is not causation. I do not know what the causation is, but Virginia was so closely associated with strict construction of federal powers that in the early nineteenth century, it was called "The Virginia School." I do not sense any particular attachment to that ideal in today's Democratic party.

If a dude thinks he is a woman, and gets elected, my response is the classical liberal one: "So what? Why is his gender relevant to the question?" Likewise for race, class, gender, creed, sexual orientation, or country of origin (as long as the person naturalized). Things that are not relevant (and I would put race, class, gender, creed, sexual orientation, and country of origin in that category), deserve scant attention, unless there is some compelling reason to pay attention to it.
Today's left, on the other hand, is obsessed with those characteristics.

I've always supported that liberal vision. I was raised that way and I have never had reason to reconsider it.
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i wonder if mlk jr's liberal view includes referring to roem as "him" instead of "her". her opponent in 2017 tried to make the campaign about her being transgendered and refused to refer to roem as her. i guess that would count as obsession.


‘Just who I am’: In new ad, Va. Democratic candidate discusses being transgender

Virginia statehouse candidate Danica Roem (D) has put her transgender identity front and center in a YouTube ad meant to chastise her opponent, Del. Robert G. Marshall (R-Prince William), for refusing to acknowledge her as a woman.

Roem, who would be the first openly transgender politician elected in Virginia, is shown in the ad taking hormone medication and putting on eye makeup. In a voice-over, she tells viewers that her gender identity "shouldn't be newsworthy or political."

"This is just who I am," Roem continues, before the video fades to the faces of smiling teens. "There are millions of transgender people in the country, and we all deserve representation in government."

A statement released with the video says the ad is a response to a comment Marshall made earlier this month to a reporter from the Prince Williams Times, who quoted Marshall as saying: "Why do you call Danica a female? Did Danica's DNA change?"
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