Next Years Non-Conference Games

crimsonnate

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Looking at next year’s schedule, I see that we have a very soft non-conference. I know that we play FSU in 2007, but why did we not pick some better programs for 06. With that schedule and all the BCS crap if we go undefeated we still would not get a shot at the title. I remember when I was younger that we played at least 2 tough non-conference opponents and usually won. With the system the way it is today I think we should go back to that. Hawaii is the toughest of the 4 and they are not that good. What should we do I know we got Penn State in 4 years and GT in 8.


Roll tide
 
Yeah, I too wish JPW first start could be against Notre Dame, USC, or some other quality opponent.. :rolleyes:
 
crimsonnate said:
Looking at next year’s schedule, I see that we have a very soft non-conference. I know that we play FSU in 2007, but why did we not pick some better programs for 06. With that schedule and all the BCS crap if we go undefeated we still would not get a shot at the title. I remember when I was younger that we played at least 2 tough non-conference opponents and usually won. With the system the way it is today I think we should go back to that. Hawaii is the toughest of the 4 and they are not that good. What should we do I know we got Penn State in 4 years and GT in 8.


Roll tide

Your memory is failing you at a young age Nate. Your bio indicates you were born in '81 and there is only a handful of years where we've played "2 tough non-conference games" as you suggest. Many of these years we've played 1 tough OOC game and that game has been the last one of the year. Pick up a media guide...you'll see the same type of scheduling then as you are seeing now with a few "big name" schools added in every couple of years or so.

In answer to your question...there are many, many reason why our schedule is what it is next year. No longer will you find conferences that only have 7 conference games per year (allowing 3-4 OOC games). With the NCAA allowing 12 game seasons it would seem that it makes schedules like this more of a possible reality, but the NCAA was thinking along $$ lines more so than "headline" matchups.

Alabama schedule (off dates for non-conference games) have been set in stone for over a decade now. Like any other school, we want those 2 million plus profit games that come from playing schools you may not consider to be "tough OOC" games. However, when you look at schools like the PSU's, the USC's, etc. those schools need the pay-days as badly as we do and they haven't had their athletic budget hindered over the past decade with the loss of bowl revenue. In other words, thinking a school can just pick up the phone and say "let's play" isn't the case...in fact, it is far from reality. Heck, it took us close to two months just to get the FSU game finalized partly due to scheduling, partly due to TV rights to broadcast it, partly due to how the $$'s would be split...

While I can understand slightly what you are contending the realities of our situation aren't what you have asserted they used to be, nor can they be what you'd like on a year to year basis. In '86 and '87 are the only two years we've played two OOC opponents I'd consider "tough," Penn State and Notre Dame. (as in ranked and excluding bowl invitations)
 
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Elephant mascot, but short memory.

Unless I am mistaken, and hopefully TerryP can clarify, the non-conference schedule was intentionally left light-loaded in 2005 and 2006 due to the anticipated effects of NCAA sanctions. Unless it is my memory that is bad, a couple of years ago the general consensus was that 2005 and 2006 would be the years that "the chickens would come home to roost" following the loss of scholarships. I remember numerous predictions of one and two win seasons due to the loss of depth. Of course, the fact that BAMA has won 9 games in one of the "lean years" is a great tribute to the heart and talent of CMS and this Crimson Tide team.
 
Has that been your schedule from the start, or did another team back out, and you had to replace? I think PSU backed out one year, but didn't know which year it was
 
Don't know the specifics...

I was out of the area during that time. I just kept up through the internet. Unfortunately, I did not know about this wonderful site and got most of my info through TI. I think we sort of passed on opportunities to schedule tougher opponents because of the reasons I mentioned earlier. I'm sure there are others who can provide a more complete answer. I do remember CMM saying something to that effect, though.
 
TerryP said:
Your memory is failing you at a young age Nate. Your bio indicates you were born in '81 and there is only a handful of years where we've played "2 tough non-conference games" as you suggest. Many of these years we've played 1 tough OOC game and that game has been the last one of the year. Pick up a media guide...you'll see the same type of scheduling then as you are seeing now with a few "big name" schools added in every couple of years or so.

In answer to your question...there are many, many reason why our schedule is what it is next year. No longer will you find conferences that only have 7 conference games per year (allowing 3-4 OOC games). With the NCAA allowing 12 game seasons it would seem that it makes schedules like this more of a possible reality, but the NCAA was thinking along $$ lines more so than "headline" matchups.

Alabama schedule (off dates for non-conference games) have been set in stone for over a decade now. Like any other school, we want those 2 million plus profit games that come from playing schools you may not consider to be "tough OOC" games. However, when you look at schools like the PSU's, the USC's, etc. those schools need the pay-days as badly as we do and they haven't had their athletic budget hindered over the past decade with the loss of bowl revenue. In other words, thinking a school can just pick up the phone and say "let's play" isn't the case...in fact, it is far from reality. Heck, it took us close to two months just to get the FSU game finalized partly due to scheduling, partly due to TV rights to broadcast it, partly due to how the $$'s would be split...

While I can understand slightly what you are contending the realities of our situation aren't what you have asserted they used to be, nor can they be what you'd like on a year to year basis. In '86 and '87 are the only two years we've played two OOC opponents I'd consider "tough," Penn State and Notre Dame. (as in ranked and excluding bowl invitations)

Thanks for clarifying that. I was just looking at past history of games we use to play and saw better opponents. I guess this is what the NCAA wants.
 
If we go undefeated, I promise not to come on here and complain about not playing in the BCS! That is a chance I'm willing to take. Considering we go to Baton Rouge, Knoxville, and Gainesville plus get to host our neighbors down the road all with a new QB, I'm not too worried about being undefeated unfortunately.
 
GrandBayTider said:
If we go undefeated, I promise not to come on here and complain about not playing in the BCS! That is a chance I'm willing to take. Considering we go to Baton Rouge, Knoxville, and Gainesville plus get to host our neighbors down the road all with a new QB, I'm not too worried about being undefeated unfortunately.

Welcome to our '05 season (Tuscaloosa, Gainesville, Baton Rouge, South Bend)...For your sanity as a fan, I hope you get through it better than we did LOL
 
Good schedule for a team coming off probation

We need to get back on our feet. Next year should be our last down year. After that, we should start reloading and seeing how Shula's recruiting has turned out.

Every now and then, it doesn't hurt to have an Aubie schedule.
 
With 4 OOC places to fill, we should always have one good opponent scheduled. I dont necessarily mean a USC, PSU, OK necessarily but at least a 'mid-level' school like a WVU or NC, Louisville for example.
 
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