Toggle sidebar

NFL Lockout Clarification

TIDE-HSV said:
Like Auburn...
Click to expand...

Yep and TN. Plus all those schools that would never have access to they type athlete they will get if this comes about. If just the top 25 averaged 4 jrs each staying that would normally have gone that's a shift of where 100 top recruits would end up. I would urge anyone who thinks one class can't hurt to tell me where we would be without the Julio, Ingram, Hightower, etc... class. It adds up in a hurry!


In all honesty I think you have to hope natural attrition takes care of some of it and maybe cut some fat somewhere. I don't think you can afford to drop any 4 or 5 recruits from an incoming class. Even if it were the bottom 4 or 5 on your board.
Posted via Mobile Device
 
Last edited:
From the perspective of the players who are looking at staying or going, the looming lockout may actually push more players out this year. The ramifications of the new CBA could push more and more juniors out early too. There's talk of a rookie wage scale, and we'll probably see some kind of max salary for a players' first 2-4 years. If you're planning ahead, it could easily cost you 7-20 million dollars in your career to stay in school a la Peyton Manning, Sam Badford or Jake Locker. The earlier you come out, the faster you get to "veteran" status and your maximum earning potential.
 
If the players declare and a lockout occurs the NCAA will have to let those players come back and play another year. If they didnt i can see 2 things happening very quickly. One is that the NCAA would be inundated with letters and phone calls at a biblical proportion. Second the NCAA would lose what little respect and prestige they have left. Players, coaches, and parents would all see how little the NCAA really cares about the student athlete. What would happen to those kids during that one year that they would be in limbo. I think most would do the right things and keep their noses clean but some might get into trouble without the structure afforded them in a football program. People will be coming at them from all angles.

But I dont think a lockout will happen. I think the parties involved will work it out.
 
RollTideGoHeels said:
In basketball you can declare pro and come back if you dont hire an agent and pull out by a certain date (I forget what date it is). In football I dont think you can do it.
Click to expand...

You have a long time in basketball to pull out of the draft if you have not hired an agent. In football you only have 3 days. Colt Brennen from Hawai'i is one guy who entered it then later pulled out of the draft.
 
rgw said:
I think if a lockout is more apparent in a few months then we could see less early entries this year. If last year was a good year for early entries, I think it's safe to say this was projected to be a bad year.

That's not to say agents won't lie a bit to get guys with their agency even through a lockout. I bet quite a few will risk no paycheck for a year just to get in a pay slot. I mean they aren't getting paid to play college either but an injury could kill their draft later.
Click to expand...


education, academically and football, feed, help with housing no not getting paid at all:rolleye2:
 
RJ YellowHammer said:
From the perspective of the players who are looking at staying or going, the looming lockout may actually push more players out this year. The ramifications of the new CBA could push more and more juniors out early too. There's talk of a rookie wage scale, and we'll probably see some kind of max salary for a players' first 2-4 years. If you're planning ahead, it could easily cost you 7-20 million dollars in your career to stay in school a la Peyton Manning, Sam Badford or Jake Locker. The earlier you come out, the faster you get to "veteran" status and your maximum earning potential.
Click to expand...

I think that was true for players coming out last year. My understanding is the current agreement expires in March before the draft takes place. That being the case there probably won't be any new contracts signed before there is a new agreement in place. If that's the case coming out in Feb won't do you any good as far as your new contract goes. I can't see any reason why the owners would sign a contract that included provisions they are willing to lock the players out over when they don't have to. My understanding is that the owners have said there will be no big upfront money for first year players in this years draft and no contracts until the new CBA is in place. So according to what they are saying now there won't be anymore Sam Bradfords. Of course this is just what I've read and heard from a friend.
Posted via Mobile Device
 
Last edited:
Dallas4Bama said:
I think that was true for players coming out last year. My understanding is the current agreement expires in March before the draft takes place. That being the case there probably won't be any new contracts signed before there is a new agreement in place. If that's the case coming out in Feb won't do you any good as far as your new contract goes. I can't see any reason why the owners would sign a contract that included provisions they are willing to lock the players out over when they don't have to. My understanding is that the owners have said there will be no big upfront money for first year players in this years draft and no contracts until the new CBA is in place. So according to what they are saying now there won't be anymore Sam Bradfords. Of course this is just what I've read and heard from a friend.
Posted via Mobile Device
Click to expand...

All of that is true for this year. But like the NBA, a rookie wage scale will mean more players come out early long term. If you can't make x dollars until year y, the faster you get to y affects career earnings. That's why you suddenly got a rash of high school players into the NBA.
Posted via Mobile Device
 
I'm not sure the rookie wage scale will have a significant effect unless they repeal the rule stating you must be three years out of high school to declare.
 
Remember, the owners are the reason this lockout will happen if it does, not the players - under the current CBA, the teams get paid their TV contracts whether they play the games or not. IOW, a strike actually benefits the owners in this case.

Thats why a lockout is so likely. Unless the NFLPA is willing to take rather large steps backwards wrt salary caps and such, the lockout will happen...
 
Bama1993 said:
I'm not sure the rookie wage scale will have a significant effect unless they repeal the rule stating you must be three years out of high school to declare.
Click to expand...

It wouldn't have as big an impact as it did in the NBA, but it would be one more thing for redshirt sophomores and juniors to consider. They haven't actually done it yet, so it's all speculation at this point.
Posted via Mobile Device
 
Chris Mortensen made a great point about the CBA issues on Jox the other morning.

To wit:

- the CBA won't get done - if it does - before training camp. Those things rarely get done on time.
- Players would still be advised to come out if their draft stock is high. Why? They would get paid, they would have a year to work out and heal up from college injuries and - more important! - they have a game-free, injury-free year to advance to free agency.

Now Mort is an NFL guy, but he was not down on the CBA's effects for juniors. He just emphasized that juniors and RS sophomores will need to get solid, sound advice.
 
CrimsonProf said:
Chris Mortensen made a great point about the CBA issues on Jox the other morning.

To wit:

- the CBA won't get done - if it does - before training camp. Those things rarely get done on time.
- Players would still be advised to come out if their draft stock is high. Why? They would get paid, they would have a year to work out and heal up from college injuries and - more important! - they have a game-free, injury-free year to advance to free agency.

Now Mort is an NFL guy, but he was not down on the CBA's effects for juniors. He just emphasized that juniors and RS sophomores will need to get solid, sound advice.
Click to expand...
That's amazing. Everything I've heard is that there will be no contracts nor pay until there's a signed CBA. Why on earth should the owners do that? Did he have anything to back up his opinion?
 
TIDE-HSV said:
That's amazing. Everything I've heard is that there will be no contracts nor pay until there's a signed CBA. Why on earth should the owners do that? Did he have anything to back up his opinion?
Click to expand...

Just guessing that it wouldn't be teams paying them if there was a lockout, but they could legally accept front money from agents etc.
 
RJ YellowHammer said:
Just guessing that it wouldn't be teams paying them if there was a lockout, but they could legally accept front money from agents etc.
Click to expand...
So they would declare for the draft, forfeit their room and board, tuition, etc., and live off whatever agents might pay some of the best of them? Are you serious?
 
I didn't follow the whole thing entirely - it's on the JOX podcast from last week. I'll go back and listen and see what he said.

Thing is - and this requires a fair amount of trust on our part - Mort is a very reliable guy, even if he works for ESPN, and would seem to have a good outlook on things.

I'll check it again and see what was said. Again, it's from last week...either the 7 or the 8 of October.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

New Posts

Advertisement

Trending content

Advertisement

Latest threads

Top Bottom
Back