NYT: Chemical weapons were found during the Iraq War but the public never knew

[crimsonaudio]

http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/...&pgType=Multimedia&eventName=video-grid-click

 

[TideEngineer08]

You don't say

 

[CajunCrimson]

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

Read that last night. No real surprise. We had an agenda going into Iraq and finding chemical weapons wasn't the real agenda.

 

[Bama Reb]

Is anyone here surprised that their government would consistently and repeatedly lie to them for the sole sake of meeting a political agenda?
This goes on even today in a multitude of different situations. The safety and well being of US military personnel or civilian citizens is not among their chief concern. What they want to achieve politically is their primary motivation.

 

[TexasBama]

 

[jthomas666]

Those pesky details...

The United States went to war in Iraq expecting to destroy an active weapons of mass destruction program. Instead, it found only remnants of chemical arms built in close collaboration with the West.

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

Those pesky details...

We always knew he had them. We sold them to him. It was about wrestling control of the oil fields away from him and turning them over to the Chinese. In the words of George Bush "Mission Accomplished."

 

[crimsonaudio]

Those pesky details...

Oh, yah, I don't think anything in the story suggests they were actively continuing the WMD program.

 

[Tidewater]

Oh, yah, I don't think anything in the story suggests they were actively continuing the WMD program.

If one is curious enough to go back to the archives of this forum, he will find me pointing out that when the Iraq Survey Team went into Iraq after the fall of the Baathist regime, they found that in 2003 the Iraqis had hundreds of chemical warheads, that the Baathists themselves believed had been destroyed. They were terrible at record-keeping.

 

[92tide]

If one is curious enough to go back to the archives of this forum, he will find me pointing out that when the Iraq Survey Team went into Iraq after the fall of the Baathist regime, they found that in 2003 the Iraqis had hundreds of chemical warheads, that the Baathists themselves believed had been destroyed. They were terrible at record-keeping.

what do you mean, those records are available for public viewing at the bagdhad library

 

[Al A Bama]

Where is Baghdad Bob? I could see him really effective in a position like meeting with journalists in the White Press and diverting their attention from what is really happening.

 

[TexasBama]

Where is Baghdad Bob? I could see him really effective in a position like meeting with journalists in the White Press and diverting their attention from what is really happening.

He's consulting for the CDC

 

[TexasBama]

If one is curious enough to go back to the archives of this forum, he will find me pointing out that when the Iraq Survey Team went into Iraq after the fall of the Baathist regime, they found that in 2003 the Iraqis had hundreds of chemical warheads, that the Baathists themselves believed had been destroyed. They were terrible at record-keeping.

There were chem weapons found in 1991. A friend of mine is on disability as a result.

 

[Tidewater]

There were chem weapons found in 1991. A friend of mine is on disability as a result.

I remember guys blowing up Iraqi ammo dumps, having no clue what was inside the bunkers.
In some cases, there were probably chemical rounds inside.
From the video, it appears that this "don't know what it is, just blow it up" attitude was still going on in Iraq 2003-2010.

 

[NationalTitles18]

He's consulting for the CDC

Nearly spit out my Dr. Pepper, but I think it's true!

 

[Bama Reb]

.....because releasing the information was contrary to political agenda.

 

[twofbyc]

I remember guys blowing up Iraqi ammo dumps, having no clue what was inside the bunkers.
In some cases, there were probably chemical rounds inside.
From the video, it appears that this "don't know what it is, just blow it up" attitude was still going on in Iraq 2003-2010.

Watching the guy being interviewed last night, seems like the cw warheads looked just like all the others, so no protocol was ever put in place to try and find out which ones were chemicals and which ones were just explosives. Too much work, I guess - what's a few soldier's lives? Leaders began to care about soldiers when their family members are soldiers, not before.

 

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

We always knew he had them. We sold them to him. It was about wrestling control of the oil fields away from him and turning them over to the Chinese. In the words of George Bush "Mission Accomplished."

ISIS says hi

 

[Tidewater]

Watching the guy being interviewed last night, seems like the cw warheads looked just like all the others, so no protocol was ever put in place to try and find out which ones were chemicals and which ones were just explosives. Too much work, I guess - what's a few soldier's lives? Leaders began to care about soldiers when their family members are soldiers, not before.

Iraqi quality control left a lot to be desired, so I would prefer to spend as little time as possible in an Iraqi ammo dump.
And you are correct that chemical rounds look a lot like conventional bombs, except those that have an oily substance oozing out of them (which was happening in some of the photos I saw). If you blow up one up, you have just slimed yourself.