Right now, they're getting our safeties out of position and they're picking on Humph. They're not picking on Averett any longer, the greenest as a starter although a junior. You can bet this is based on video study...
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All the talk about the secondary being terrible is nonsense. Could they have played better? Absolutely. But they held the best passing QB in the SEC to a 52% pass completion percentage and QBR of 38, with three interceptions.
It is shocking to see that Arkansas scored 30 points in that game. I get that. But your secondary has more NFL talent than any other team in the country, and it isn't close. This is what happens when you get up big early and force the other team to throw the ball on every down. They are going to hit some of those passes.
There is a reason that you have to have a short memory to play DB at this level. Your DBs are going to get beat when you play good QBs. But you won by 19 on the road in the SEC. Life is good.
It is shocking to see that Arkansas scored 30 points in that game. I get that. But your secondary has more NFL talent than any other team in the country, and it isn't close. This is what happens when you get up big early and force the other team to throw the ball on every down. They are going to hit some of those passes.
There is a reason that you have to have a short memory to play DB at this level. Your DBs are going to get beat when you play good QBs. But you won by 19 on the road in the SEC. Life is good.
You're right about getting our safeties out of position. I am not sure if it was by scheme or just failure by our safeties to recognize and adjust. I think they regroup using last night as motivation
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AJ did this continually. Cooper and Bell saved his rear frequently. Maybe there was criticism of AJ, but I don't remember it. This kid is already a star. I thought Jake was very underrated the second half of last year. He made many big plays at crucial times. JH is playing better - NOW. Room for improvement ? Sure. But IMO, he is already playing as well or better than any QB of the Saban era. This offense is almost unstoppable when it feels threatened.
Great comparison to the saints D. Also, college football is simply much different than it was just 5 years ago. In most games against P5 teams, you've done a good job holding them to 20 or under. One can pout and whine or adjust. Coach Saban has adjusted.
Corn dogs? For Tennessee? I'm confused.Memo to self... Buy Corn Dogs for next weeks game.
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I assume you are being facetious ? Sorry I have to ask, look at some of the posters in this thread who actually believe it.I agree. But still, that's what makes us great
Tusks,
Before I respond with some context, let me preface by saying that if I'm reading you right, we are in agreement. If we play our next two games on defense like we did tonight, we will go 0-2 (probably) against two pretty decent quarterbacks.
2) That 30 points for Arky is six points BELOW their season average; the 43 for Ole Miss is ONE point below their season average...and you're forgetting that one of those TDs was a defensive fumble return for a TD that you cannot blame on our defense, so we're talking 37 points...again, 7 points below the average.
3) You're also ignoring that - sure, Allen didn't throw for anywhere close to 400 yards against previous foes....but that's partly because in the other games he only threw about 29 passes compared to 48 last night; in the ATM game, he threw 42 times for 371 yards.
4) Chad Kelly attained a good truckload of his yards AFTER Eddie Jackson and Minkah both went out with injuries.
5) Of course they passed for a lot of yards...one team was trailing 48-30 with five minutes left when Kelly had 103 yards passing in their final two drives; the other team was trailing, 42-17, and then he threw the ball for 192 yards (not including the -100 that Minkah hung on him).
I'm not disputing your facts, I'm providing context, particularly since Alabama was only in real danger of losing the Ole Miss game if Bo's fumble had been recovered by the Black Bears.
We blew them to pieces in a great all-around game at home.
One more note to everyone else - better to lose to the Vols than ATM because of the divisions. Don't want to lose either one, but I doubt ATM will lose TWICE if they beat us.
Before I respond with some context, let me preface by saying that if I'm reading you right, we are in agreement. If we play our next two games on defense like we did tonight, we will go 0-2 (probably) against two pretty decent quarterbacks.
1) You forgot three critical words in your assessment - "on.....the....road"
2) That 30 points for Arky is six points BELOW their season average; the 43 for Ole Miss is ONE point below their season average...and you're forgetting that one of those TDs was a defensive fumble return for a TD that you cannot blame on our defense, so we're talking 37 points...again, 7 points below the average.
3) You're also ignoring that - sure, Allen didn't throw for anywhere close to 400 yards against previous foes....but that's partly because in the other games he only threw about 29 passes compared to 48 last night; in the ATM game, he threw 42 times for 371 yards.
4) Chad Kelly attained a good truckload of his yards AFTER Eddie Jackson and Minkah both went out with injuries.
5) Of course they passed for a lot of yards...one team was trailing 48-30 with five minutes left when Kelly had 103 yards passing in their final two drives; the other team was trailing, 42-17, and then he threw the ball for 192 yards (not including the -100 that Minkah hung on him).
I'm not disputing your facts, I'm providing context, particularly since Alabama was only in real danger of losing the Ole Miss game if Bo's fumble had been recovered by the Black Bears.
That may or may not be true. I encourage you to go back and look at the previous years' successes. We play BETTER starting with the LSU game almost invariably. There's a pattern here - start a bit stumbling, win a big one early (save for Ole Miss last year), drag into the off week...and then come out ready to play lights out.
Let me put it this way - is there another defense you've seen out there that is better? We have some problems we MUST fix and like RIGHT NOW. I agree with you there. But remember folks - just two years ago everyone was hand wringing after the Ole Miss loss and the pathetic, bumbling performance against Arkansas. It was so bad our own JessN predicted ATM would beat us the next week with phenom Kenny Hill at QB.
We blew them to pieces in a great all-around game at home.
One more note to everyone else - better to lose to the Vols than ATM because of the divisions. Don't want to lose either one, but I doubt ATM will lose TWICE if they beat us.
No. Not really. It was tongue in cheek.
And if we play Tennessee that way next week we will beat them too. [emoji3]
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If you are saying that AU, A&M, UT and LSU may be better teams than Alabama, and I think you are, then you are WAY wrong. Bama is better than all 4 and in regard to AU, it's not even close. They may not win them all, but they are better. And to cut to the chase, AU has almost no chance against Bama. say "almost" because anything can happen, though rarely in this series. The only 2 monumental upsets were 48 and 84 and maybe 72, but that was a 10-1 team. This year would be monumental.
And Hurts is not only playing fabulously but his presence is opening things up elsewhere. His amazing poise and maturity add an unquantifiable element that makes this O lethal - not just numbers, but to score when it means something.
There are some Bama fans who don't realize what this team is. Some are afraid of their own shadow.
TEXAS ATM OPPONENTS (total defense, scoring defense)
Prairie View doesn't even hardly count in this
UCLA (342.5 pg, 22.5)
Auburn (346.8, 16.0)
Arky (398.2, 27.5)
SCAR (403.8, 18.6)
Tenn (399.3, 26.7)
ATM has exceeded those totals in each game. Of course, the ones where they EASILY exceeded the points was AT HOME and they had more trouble on the road and the game is in BDS. Based on our current surrendering of 15.8 ppg and their averaging 32.8 ppg in regulation (OT and teams like PVAM skew things so you have to base it on four quarters of decent teams). I've been working for years on a predictive model on this and to try and keep it short: you figure the AVERAGE number above or below that a team gets consistently as a constant, calculate the average of what a team gives up and what a team scores, and then figure an advantage for home field or off week. ATM is averaging 40.2 ppg but you have to subtract the non-opponent and it falls to 34.8.
All things being equal (and this is an ASSUMPTION as well), we should expect ATM's point total to be between 24 and 30 points with a mean of 27 (this is because while they have a DISADVANTAGE being at BDS that is offset by the fact that not only do they have an off week but we play a highly ranked team.
TENNESSEE OPPONENTS
Vols are averaging 33.3 ppg
APP STATE (average giving up 26 ppg, Vols got half that in regulation)
VA TECH (15.6 ppg, Vols tripled that)
Florida (11.6 ppg, Vols got 38)
UGA (30.8 ppg, Vols got 34.....Kelly and Ole Miss got 45)
ATM (19.2 ppg, Vols got nearly twice that in regulation; drop PVAM and it rises to 23 ppg)
Mixed bags like this are why the Vols are hard to figure out. Their very inconsistency causes problems. From a cursory glance, they should score around 30 points as well.
Take it fwiw.
You're right in the larger picture. There's no need to panic but there IS a need to practice and play well.
I am watching the game right now...and I wonder why the refs rarely call holds on opposing teams? They are pretty obvious holds.
This is exactly why we have changed our offensive philosophy. Saban realized to stay dominate he had to score points in bunches to win because of the way the rules favor offense.
Basically if you can't beat them, join them. And now he is doing it better then them.
Basically if you can't beat them, join them. And now he is doing it better then them.
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Thats why CNS looked the way that he did at the end of the game. He never loses complete focus.
I have read through the posts and some have really hit the nail on the head. After Reuben Foster was hurt, Evans came in and seemed to make some mistakes in pass coverage. One time in particular was on the tight end drag that was just behind the linebackers. Foster and Ragland would turn and run with him on that type of play and Evans just kind of got sucked up in the middle. There were already two other backers blitzing on the play and with Evans stepping up too, the guy was wide open for an easy throw and catch. I think that experience will help him in the future. Letting the young D-line play last night will reap benefits later on. Number 24 looks like he will be pretty good one day. You could tell the LB's were a little frustrated toward the end of the game because the Arky O-line were getting on them pretty easy on the running plays, but you have to build depth somehow.
I love Alabama problems. We win by 19 and still complain about the way we won. We are pretty healthy for this time of year and the guys sure can't believe they have arrived since they gave up 30 pts. last night. They just have to go back to work.
I love Alabama problems. We win by 19 and still complain about the way we won. We are pretty healthy for this time of year and the guys sure can't believe they have arrived since they gave up 30 pts. last night. They just have to go back to work.
My eyes saw the same missed opportunities and blown assignments as everyone else. We have a lot to work on in the secondary, but give a good QB the ball for nearly 2/3 of the game and shut down his running option, and 400 yards is at least a more palatable result. Our defense was on the field a lot yesterday and got tired. Part of that was because we kept scoring when we did not have the ball (NOTs). Foster had to leave early, too. This is a special team with fixable flaws. We have the best coach. We will be fine.
USC: 29:17. Bama: 30:43. USC TOP 49%
Western KY: 24:16. Bama 35:44. Western KY TOP 40%
Ole Miss: 24:37. Bama: 35:23. Ole Miss TOP 41%
Kent State: 26:27. Bama: 33:33. Kent State TOP 44%
Kentucky: 30:13. Bama: 29:47. Kentucky TOP 50%
Arkansas: 37:07. Bama: 22:53. Arkansas TOP 62%
USC: 29:17. Bama: 30:43. USC TOP 49%
Western KY: 24:16. Bama 35:44. Western KY TOP 40%
Ole Miss: 24:37. Bama: 35:23. Ole Miss TOP 41%
Kent State: 26:27. Bama: 33:33. Kent State TOP 44%
Kentucky: 30:13. Bama: 29:47. Kentucky TOP 50%
Arkansas: 37:07. Bama: 22:53. Arkansas TOP 62%
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IMO, we are improving every week. We still need work on the right side of the offensive line. Our d-backs need to look for the ball. We still need work, but we will continue to improve every week. Hurts is a superstar in the making. Stewart makes a lot of difference when he plays. Anderson is playing great. Shank still can't block. Overall, I'm excited about the way this team plays.
Given the fact we score atleast once a game on defense and very fast on offense I can actually see this happening. The only close game we had was Ole Miss so I don't think it really matters as much as it used to
I just feel like we haven't played a complete game yet. Though we have symptoms of greatness, we have to start to really put it together.
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