Bama Game Thread: Official PostGame Thread - Bama vs. IU...

[Bama Shoals]

He's going to lose a ton of his experience from graduation and the rest to the transfer portal for big paydays. He'll have to totally rebuild next year through NIL and the transfer portal. I suspect IU will revert.

It makes me sad, because these guys are what college football should be. But, yeah. Lighting in a bottle for a year.

I don’t know about this. IU has the largest alumni base in the country, 4 times larger than Bama. They obviously have a great coach. They are perfectly set up for the NIL era. And this level of winning will only attract more talent.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Couldn’t disagree more. I think Mark Ingram was quoted as saying Coach DeBoer was an “out scheme” you Coach and less interested in mental toughness. So I’m curious, do you see Coach D figuring all of this out next year. I’m going to bet we may be having the same conversation next year. Wonder what your feeling will be at that point? Especially if he signs an extension.

The point is Cignetti is currently blessed with dealing with a load of talented but 3* players who are willing to be coached and don't care about cash.

Check back with me in three years - if Cignetti is still killing it I'll gladly give a mea culpa. But if he's not, if the reality of modern NIL has shaken his disciplined approach, the we can finally agree that Cignetti isn't superior to Saban (who walked away from CFB due to NIL).

 

[CoolBreeze]

Ohio State never seems to have this problem.

Still trying to think of their last legendary coach.

 

[OconeeTide]

DeBoer about to do post game press conference

Listen here if you can tolerate it.,

Im really curious if someone has the guts to ask him " Why play Ty Simpson knowing he was injured? "
That and going for it on that 4th and 1.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

I have now turned off 5 games in my lifetime. 3 were in the last 2 years.

 

[bamajas]

I don’t know about this. IU has the largest alumni base in the country, 4 times larger than Bama. They obviously have a great coach. They are perfectly set up for the NIL era. And this level of winning will only attract more talent.

And they're not idiots when it comes to excellence; they've seen it in person with basketball. Now they finally have a vision and a conduit to channel it into football

 

[SkullDuckery]

Only thing to make this worse is if Golding wins a playoff game.

 

[TideMan09]

If this coaching staff doesn't fix our physicality & our running game next year will be their last..Period..

Bama Football wasn't built on finesse Im sorry..

We were more physical during the Shula Era sadly..

 

[SkinnyFats]

DeBoer about to do post game press conference

Listen here if you can tolerate it.,

Can’t do it. I have yet to hear him say anything, ever, that was worth listening to at a press conference. Win or lose, it doesn’t matter. Just blah blah blah

 

[BamaFanInTally]

A lot of things need fixing. Especially on offense. Our Oline play is terrible, our running game is totally abysmal, and our play calling sucks.

CKD should get rid of Grubb, Kapilovic, and Gillespie tomorrow. Quickly followed by David Ballou as well since our strength and conditioning program has been an issue before Saban retired.

Saban proved he could plug and play with assistant coaches. Can DeBoer? Not sure, but continuing with the same philosophy will lead to similar results, IMO.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Here's what's befuddling. Alabama had better athletes and more talent at almost every position on the field but you would never know it watching the game. How does "want", "desire" and "execution" beat all that talent in such an overwhelming way? That is a huge red flag for the coaches and hopefully they recognize it. They just let a team dominate them like never before. I don't think there's been another game where Alabama had the talent mismatch so much in their favor yet the result so opposite. WOW...

That's what excellent coaching looks like.

For example - in modern terms, can someone 'buy' a NC via talent alone? Nope. Day kinda did so last year but he was already an elite coach...

 

[countrytider]

I’ll let you have the last word since you feel the need to continue thread after thread with name calling, putting words in others mouths, and wanting to constantly spar.

Ignore list

I’m not worried about the last word. Where did I name call?

I’m worried about the ignorance of even a modest attempt to blame Saban for DeBoer’s debacle.

At no point under Saban did we look like this.

The man finished 12-2, SEC champions.

That’s slipping, while two 4 loss seasons in a row with some humiliating losses along the way are good seasons.

You nor anyone else that spews that garbage can back it up with any type of facts whatsoever.

Then you have guys like Cignetti literally turn a 3-9 historically loser bad team into a title contender in two years.

But you and one or two more continually push the ridiculous narrative this is somehow Saban’s fault.

Truth Bomb: It’s not. Ignore all you want, I don’t care. Good thing is it doesn’t change the truth.

 

[DanoCanuck]

I want to know one thing....What the heck happened to Ty Simpson? He was a Heisman candidate based on his result during the first part of the season. His decision making was excellent, his arm was lively and accurate and was commanding the offense like a BOSS. For whatever reason that all went away or become very spotty at best. Another befuddling aspect of Alabama's season.

 

[Stonecoldtide]

The point is Cignetti is currently blessed with dealing with a load of talented but 3* players who are willing to be coached and don't care about cash.

Check back with me in three years - if Cignetti is still killing it I'll gladly give a mea culpa. But if he's not, if the reality of modern NIL has shaken his disciplined approach, the we can finally agree that Cignetti isn't superior to Saban (who walked away from CFB due to NIL).

Fair enough. I do not think he’s close to Coach Saban but his style is similar. With all due respect, I just have a strong sense that DeBoer is who he is. His program doesn’t seem to develop talent. But I respect your thoughts.

 

[BamaNation]

DeBoer about to do post game press conference

Listen here if you can tolerate it.,

"This is what our program is going to be - upset when we're in this situation"
"I'm proud of these guys."
"They committed to each other"
"doesn't sit well with us"
"after today all we can do is move on"

 

[crimsonaudio]

I think Cignetti might be the best coach in the country.

Having said that, you are only cinderella once. After this season some of his players will develop a sudden interest in money. Cignetti should just tell them to move on and get some angry division 2 player who he can turn into a monster but who knows if that will work consistently.

More critically every AD in the country will be looking at his staff for their next hire to bring them that magic.

Every team he plays will be circling them on the calendar to give them their best game.

It was almost too easy when Alabama won it all in 2009, but Saban said many times winning is one thing, winning consistently is another thing entirely.

Again, he's playing with borrowed talent...

 

[SkullDuckery]

Dobeor is a 50 something year old man. He’s not changing his ways despite who the assistants are. We got another two years of this weak minded football.

 

[SkullDuckery]

"This is what our program is going to be - upset when we're in this situation"
"I'm proud of these guys."
"They committed to each other"
"doesn't sit well with us"
"after today all we can do is move on"

Mike DuBose’ish

 

[gtgilbert]

DeBoer also spanked Sarkisian in 23 who spanked us at home physically. So if you want to bring up the Michigan game let’s be fair and not cherry pick.

Also DeBoer lost 40 players to the portal before coaching a down at Alabama so let’s stop acting like Saban left a wealth of talent and experience.

DeBoer does NEED to develop a physical line on both sides of the ball and needs depth. But we haven’t had one since 2020. We have totally whiffed on them in both Saban and DeBoer’s years since 2020. Bryce covered up the deficiencies for two years and Milroe was our running game two years running. Our offensive line deficiencies are nothing new. They are just far more obvious.


How do we fix it… A new OLine coach is probably a start. Also instead of spending on receivers and backs we probably need to focus on 3 good DL and 2-3 good o linemen in the portal. Also someone needs to get Grubb under control because he has yet to call a truly stellar game offensively.

IDK but again I’m reminded that the team that just big boyed us was big boyed last year by Ohio State and Notre Dame. So a fix isn’t out of the realm of possibilities.

I'm not so sure we've whiffed in recruiting as much as we haven't coached the best we've had for a long time so we've had a bad track record in developing and playing the right guys and that's been over a couple of staffs.

We've had OL transfers go earn starting spots at schools playing way better than we are right now on the O.

I have NO clue what we were doing this year. I still maintain that Roberts was by far our best IOL, and that it wasn't even close, and he barely played. GVDM, was the #2 guy, and it seemed like he got shuffled all over the place and never had a consistent role. We seem married to Brailsford despite the fact he NEVER moves anyone out of the way, and often seems like he's running around lost looking for someone to block, or sliding to help 2 guys block 1 when the pressure is from the other side. The guy we lost when we brought him in is starting at Miami and anchored that team's IOL very well.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Fair enough. I do not think he’s close to Coach Saban but his style is similar. With all due respect, I just have a strong sense that DeBoer is who he is. His program doesn’t seem to develop talent. But I respect your thoughts.

Fair point. Time will tell both ways.