Bama Game Thread: Official PostGame Thread - Bama vs. IU...

[crimsonaudio]

it can be both. Holding onto some of those guys was the responsibility of the coaches right?

Also - the way our OL coach was the last 2 years, I'm not sure if we had Landon Dickenson, Cam Robinson and Evan O'Neal on the roster that he would have played them in the right spots.

Keeping in mind that the Saban hold-overs do not fit CKD's OL style.

If Bama had five Parker Brailsford-types on the OL this season I suspect the offense would look VERY different. Bama/DeBoer is still dealing with Saban's return towards five-yards-and-a-billow-of-dust offense...

 

[SkinnyFats]

To be fair, consider we may have "missed/whiffed" because we were outbid.

Were we outbid for all of the Indiana guys who demolished our team today?

Maybe having more money doesn’t mean everything.

 

[bamamc1]

We have more NIL spending with our team than IU and had our rear ends handed to us.

 

[Con]

Were we outbid for all of the Indiana guys who demolished our team today?

Maybe having more money doesn’t mean everything.

It didn’t for Ohio State or Texas Tech this year.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Were we outbid for all of the Indiana guys who demolished our team today?

Maybe having more money doesn’t mean everything.

Or maybe passion is more important than potential dollars?

The reality is Indiana has built an aged but under-valued (primarily 3*) team that executes at a high level.

Try doing that year in and out and I'll be dollars to donuts you'll fail.\

Cignetti has lightning in a bottle hence his posing for camera shots throughout the game. He's maximizing his payout.

 

[KrAzY3]

Keeping in mind that the Saban hold-overs do not fit CKD's OL style.

If Bama had five Parker Brailsford-types on the OL this season I suspect the offense would look VERY different. Bama/DeBoer is still dealing with Saban's return towards five-yards-and-a-billow-of-dust offense...

I have to ask the question, what is that offense supposed to look like?

I've gone over every single season that DeBoer has been an OC at a power conference and head coach at the FBS level, along with peaking at some various other stops. I always saw the same pattern, which is an offense that looks a lot like this actually.

So what is supposed to change when he gets his fit that he didn't use the portal to get yet? I've seen the mention a lot of times, but his offenses more or less look very similar to me and it's actually quite like what we're seeing now. It looked like this against Michigan when he has 26 5th and 6th year seniors and a 6th year senior QB, and 10 first round draft picks,, so what will be different?

 

[bamamc1]

Keeping in mind that the Saban hold-overs do not fit CKD's OL style.

If Bama had five Parker Brailsford-types on the OL this season I suspect the offense would look VERY different. Bama/DeBoer is still dealing with Saban's return towards five-yards-and-a-billow-of-dust offense...

I saw Brailsford getting lit up a few times today. You’re not moving 330 with 285. I’m not sure what the recipe is but we need to figure it out and quickly.

 

[TideEngineer08]

He'd do that whether Indiana won or lost that sequence because he's an aging prig who is angry he didn't get an opportunity before retirement age. He's a douchebag, pure and simple - don't give him credit for being lucky more often than not...

Good point. Still the optics are what they are. That was the silliest I’ve ever seen Alabama look. He could have not made any faces and it would have still been utterly embarrassing.

And I go back farther than the Nick Saban era. I lived through all the era of the Mikes with fRAN in between. I’ve been trying to remember something like it in all those years and I can’t.

 

[Tidewater]

Indiana just proved that discipline and execution beat 'talent' every time.

If Bama had been able / allowed to play to potential the score likely would have been the opposite.

But Indiana, despite having lesser talent across the board, out-performed and out-executed Bama all night long.

Kudos to the Hoosiers for an excellently executed game plan.

Disciplined. Focused. Consistent. Adjectives that used to describe Alabama and now describe Indiana.

 

[BamaInCummingGA]

How did that season go?

That’s right…talk about selective memory.

Good God, you guys literally prove my point.

Let me remind you:

SEC Champs

12-2

Stopped UGA from a 3-peat.

4 team playoff berth.

One dumb play call from playing for another NC.

You guys have to just be trolling at this point…surely it’s not the alternative..

About like this one......We lost against two better teams that season because we couldn't get a couple of yards when we needed them in the running game because our oline couldn't just drive people back.
Look at the other teams we played and beat. They weren't world beaters, either.
You're just mad because somebody took your lollipop.
We just got beat by a better team. Just man up and admit it.
Quit fighting and arguing just to fight and argue because we got our tails handed to us.

 

[crimsonaudio]

I have to ask the question, what is that offense supposed to look like?

I've gone over every single season that DeBoer has been an OC at a power conference and head coach at the FBS level, along with peaking at some various other stops. I always saw the same pattern, which is an offense that looks a lot like this actually.

So what is supposed to change when he gets his fit that he didn't use the portal to get yet? I've seen the mention a lot of times, but his offenses more or less look very similar to me and it's actually quite like what we're seeing now. It looked like this against Michigan when he has 26 5th and 6th year seniors and a 6th year senior QB, and 10 first round draft picks,, so what will be different?

Honest, non-attacking questiong - did you ever play OL in FB?

IF you did, you'd understand why your queries make little sense.

If you didn't, the reality is a bunch of under-weighted but athletic guys can be very effective when they're on the same page. And when you don't have a LT that can be easily beaten by a simple fast-upfield move by the DE your OL looks WAY better.

 

[russtang]

I'd not have run wide, but again, Cignetti would have responded the same regardless. He's milking the media for all he can.

100%. He's playing to the camera. I think he's playing a caricature of what he thinks a tough, no nonsense coach is supposed to look like A-la CNS.
He is a good coach though.

 

[TideEngineer08]

And anyone talking about Lane Kiffin, what are you smoking?

Forget what he’s done away from the game.

He screwed over Al Davis and the Raiders

He screwed over Tennessee

He screwed up his opportunity with USC

He screwed over Nick Saban and that 2016 team and ruined a title chance

And now he’s screwed over a great Ole Miss team and ruined another title chance.

This is who he is. He isn’t winning a championship at LSU. He is going to go down in spectacular flames there. He gets close to any kind of success and he flips out. He has the reverse Midas touch; he turns gold into dross.

 

[bamamc1]

Good point. Still the optics are what they are. That was the silliest I’ve ever seen Alabama look. He could have not made any faces and it would have still been utterly embarrassing.

And I go back farther than the Nick Saban era. I lived through all the era of the Mikes with fRAN in between. I’ve been trying to remember something like it in all those years and I can’t.

You haven’t because I go back a little further and I don’t remember ever seeing anything like that. Unbelievable.

 

[cthorne22]

I think it’s a combo of both but you are right the change in QB for Seattle cannot be glossed over.

Not exactly.
Geno Smith played well in Seattle last year, but all Grubb wanted to do was throw the ball. According to the Seattle HC

 

[crimsonaudio]

And anyone talking about Lane Kiffin, what are you smoking?

Forget what he’s done away from the game.

He screwed over Al Davis and the Raiders

He screwed over Tennessee

He screwed up his opportunity with USC

He screwed over Nick Saban and that 2016 team and ruined a title chance

And now he’s screwed over a great Ole Miss team and ruined another title chance.

This is who he is. He isn’t winning a championship at LSU. He is going to go down in spectacular flames there. He gets close to any kind of success and he flips out. He has the reverse Midas touch; he turns gold into dross.

Literal FULL BANJO post if there ever was one.

 

[KrAzY3]

Honest, non-attacking questiong - did you ever play OL in FB?

IF you did, you'd understand why your queries make little sense.

If you didn't, the reality is a bunch of under-weighted but athletic guys can be very effective when they're on the same page. And when you don't have a LT that can be easily beaten by a simple fast-upfield move by the DE your OL looks WAY better.

His offensive-line was award winning at Washington (Joe Moore award), it is basically what you described.

They ran for 1.7 yards per rush against Michigan and got blown out. Alabama today averaged 1.4 against Indiana and got blown out.

I'm not seeing the difference. Same trends, same struggles against elite defenses, same one dimensional offenses. And no, I certainly was not.

Edit: On a side note, since people (not you) want to point to where Saban's team was at at the time of his departure and the holdovers, against the same Michigan team Alabama averaged 4 yards per rush.

 

[cthorne22]

Who has literally won exactly zero championships. But do go on...

Never indicated I wanted him as HC... hence the immature punk description

 

[JD Dupree]

Im just tired of all these G5 assistant coaches. Small ball doesnt in P4 CFP.

How do you explain Cignetti's success? The majority of his current staff was from JMU (G5, formally FCS). The issue comes down to the personality of the head coach; out of all of the current playoff coaches they all seem like they can light a fire and make a player run through a brick wall. CKD...not so much. He's Shula with less hair, bigger salary, and no sanctions.

We all talk about the coaching staff needing an overhaul, RB, OL, etc., but I'm not sure the top candidates are chomping at the bit to come here. Can CKD light a fire under proper candidates and get them on board? If we don't see noticeable upgrades on the coaching staff in the off season, then we are going to be in the bottom half of the SEC next season and then looking for a new coach for 2027.

 

[bamamc1]

And anyone talking about Lane Kiffin, what are you smoking?

Forget what he’s done away from the game.

He screwed over Al Davis and the Raiders

He screwed over Tennessee

He screwed up his opportunity with USC

He screwed over Nick Saban and that 2016 team and ruined a title chance

And now he’s screwed over a great Ole Miss team and ruined another title chance.

This is who he is. He isn’t winning a championship at LSU. He is going to go down in spectacular flames there. He gets close to any kind of success and he flips out. He has the reverse Midas touch; he turns gold into dross.

Kiffin will hate that he left Ole Miss about 3-4 years from now. He had it made and was too stupid to realize it.