Fine I will play under your unfair comparisons…
2024
Cignetti… brought nearly his entire staff and basically his whole team from JMU with him. So basically this a continuation of a program he built a JMU over the past 6 years and not something he just made up out of the blue. Played 2 ranked teams in year 1 and got blown out by BOTH of them.
DeBoer: brings in most of his staff. But his Mora award winning oline coach and his OC jet 3 days into being hired. Is forced to retain S&C, DL, and RB coach from the previous regime. Hires a new DC. Pretty much everyone that is worth a flip on that Washington team he had graduated or declared to the draft. Aside from Haynes… everyone on the 23 team that anyone wanted left or graduated. You can tell me that it is his job to keep them all you want to, but Saban was going to lose alot of the same people and it was a big factor of him retiring.
Okay let’s get to DeBoer’s season 1… plays 4 ranked teams goes 3-1 vs them. Loses on the road to Vandy, Oklahoma, and Tennessee. Oklahoma maybe the only true bad loss out of all of them.
Verdict of 24: Cignetti played an insanely easy schedule at a place with zero expectations. He brought a staff that largely has been with him since Elon and JMU. He brought a good chunk of his JMU team with him too. DeBoer played against unquestionably a harder schedule and didn’t really get to enjoy having the players he had last year on the roster like Cignetti did.
Verdict on 25: I’m just gonna say it without going in depth. Indiana played a far weaker schedule and upgraded in key positions in the portal. Bama struck out and had mixed returns at best with the new OC.
Overall the big difference with Cignetti and DeBoer is that Cignetti has his guys and his team from the past 4-5 years in an environment that allows him to run it his way. At Alabama I guarantee you he wouldn’t have been afforded this luxury coming from JMU. The expectation would be “sign these guys that we have been paying our money to come here” and less of “Coach wants us to pay for this little known oline guy from Virginia and this quarterback that played at Cal”.
Is Cignetti a better coach than DeBoer… Now probably. A year ago probably not. 2 years ago definitely not? Things change and can change back just as quick. Just look at Belichick
Indiana was 3-9 in 2023
It is unbelievably impressive that he brought in G5 players and staff and used the portal to instantly turn them into an 11-2 team in year 1
Their SOS was 35th and ours was 20th so it wasn’t some chasm of separation in how hard the schedules were.
He did get blown out by tOSU and I have acknowledged that… they were also the NC.
I guess the ND loss can be looked at as a blowout if we just ignore them continuing to compete until the end and losing by 10 points to the NCG runner up.
For our 2024 to be accurate CKD was 2-1 vs ranked teams in the final rankings. There is also a loss that’s been omitted to a 5 loss Mich team that was basically their 2nd and 3rd string.
The Bad losses are subjective but yes the OU loss is the one that’s truly unacceptable based on the field play and scoreboard.
As for 2025 on paper yes our SOS is 6th and theirs is 28th but again I’m not sure if that’s a chasm of separation.
The SEC has been exposed in the postseason with a record of 4-9 and only OM remains.
The B1G is 9-4 with 2 teams still alive.
As of right now IU has beat 3 Top 10 teams and 2 Top 3 teams and has zero losses.
Our FSU loss is completely unacceptable. Our SOS has nothing to do with that one.
We got beat by 2 TDs by a 7 loss team.
Cignetti doesn’t have a loss like that anywhere nor does he have losses to other mediocre teams like 7-6 Vandy, 6-7 OU, or 8-5 Mich from ‘24.
The whole SOS argument might carry some water if we were losing to Very Good to Great teams only ie we are actually losing because the schedule is tough.
We are dropping games we have no business dropping.
Our Good wins this year are OU and UGA and they also take a hit by losing to both and especially getting waxed by UGA for the SECCG.
It’s a wash at best.
Well 1 more good win I guess is over 10-3 Vandy who is temporarily in the Top 15 but will drop after losing to Iowa.
Tenn and Mizzou were barely hanging onto Top 25 rankings but lost their post season games too and will fall to UR.
So our schedule really turned out to not be as tough as it was purported to be.
My verdict is that Cignetti is doing way waaaay more with less against comparable if not better competition and CKD is doing a lot of spectacular swinging and missing and soiling the field with pathetic showings and getting behind a mic and saying ‘we’re so close’ guys.