JessN: Ohio State recap: Tide may have even more changes to make

at the very least, meyer put to rest the absurd notion of being "sabanized" out of coaching or whatever such nonsense has been spewed.

Yea, well, that was always an asinine sentiment anyway. Look, there are many types of fans on this site. Those of us that are more pragmatic really have to pick and choose the threads that interest us and be a part of. We have a great coach...so does OSU - now on to recruiting.
 
Lot of things We saw against OSU, it was similar to what we saw when we played them. We should've beat them. Oregon shouldv'e beat them. Teams that played OSU shouldv'e beat them.... OSU got lucky this year and I congrat them for that. The bama boys see this, and Saban and coaching staff will see this. we'll be okay. We lost and its time to move on.

Luck? A comment lament from the losing side.
 
Yea, well, that was always an asinine sentiment anyway. Look, there are many types of fans on this site. Those of us that are more pragmatic really have to pick and choose the threads that interest us and be a part of. We have a great coach...so does OSU - now on to recruiting.

Yeah, because the rest of us mouth breathers and knuckle draggers just get in the way. ;)
 
I wouldnt classify that a comment from a losing side, but thought they slipped in the play off depsite weak schedule and they beat us fair and all... IF TCU and Baylor had conference game.. Ohio wouldnt be getting in.
 
I love this read our old ways will only hurt us,if we don't adapt to the changes in front of us.Coach is getting a wake up call like Coach Bryant did.He is our coach and we'll have to see what changes he does make and if their the right ones.
 
he beat him head to head in the playoffs and matched him as the only HC to win a title at two different schools.

to be sure, saban has one more title overall, but currently meyer has the better team and the trophy.

that's the measuring stick i'm using...he's leveled the playing field and taken the head to head.

like i said...i hate OSU and i don't like meyer...but he's the one in the catbird seat right now.

i don't see it as a zero sum game
 
he beat him head to head in the playoffs and matched him as the only HC to win a title at two different schools.

to be sure, saban has one more title overall, but currently meyer has the better team and the trophy.

that's the measuring stick i'm using...he's leveled the playing field and taken the head to head.

like i said...i hate OSU and i don't like meyer...but he's the one in the catbird seat right now.

At the very least, Meyer took over two already-stocked programs and won championships. Never in his coaching career has he rebuilt a program like Saban has done TWICE. The comparisons will be made, and Meyer can obviously coach winning football, but he has not done what Saban has done.
 
I don't see any necessary conflict between the two, and BB isn't advocating some undefined change, at least from what I read, as much as he's simply reciting that there must be an improvement in DB play. That doesn't necessarily mean any underlying change needs to take place, other than a shift in recruiting evaluations/philosophy (which has already taken place, I might add).

In any event, I do think he's basically right. We aren't winning championships if the pass defense keeps turning every halfway decent Joe Blow we come across into Joe Montana for four quarters. Want to win a tight game on a big stage against a very good opponent? Being able to get off the field every now and again on 3rd and 10+ would be a good start, and when you can't do things like that -- and I'm not even talking yet about putting active pressure on the football and forcing turnovers, which were almost non-existent for us this season at DB -- you really put yourself in such a hole that you're going to need other-worldly type performances from your offense and defensive front seven if you expect to be able to win those types of games.

Weeellllllll...in defense of the DB's, they will only be as good as the front 7 will allow them to be. I saw a TON of QB scrambles (this season and last) that resulted in big plays, either passing or running. Not all of that is on the db's. A good pass rush with quality containment and easily half of those plays don't get made and we aren't even having this discussion.
 

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