OK Folks-If we could pick a candidate to replace

[jdad22]

OK Folks-If we could pick a candidate to replace our offensive coordinator and/or our offensive line coach, who would we go after?

 

[hollisx4]

what about Neil Calloway?

Is he still over at Georgia?
They look like they have a pretty good O-line year in and year out.

 

[LegionField]

Doesn't Shula call the plays?

hmmmm......Of course, those plays seemed to work when we had a mobile, hungry kid in there at qb. Maybe it is not the playcalling. It is a combination of no depth, no confidence at qb, etc.....

 

[7Tech]

I don't really know who

to go after if we were to replace the oline coach or the OC. but we need something. we need an offense that is not so predictable in certain situations. the forst play of everygame we have come out throwing the ball and what happened the first play yesterday ??? they knew we were going to throw it and they knew the oline couldn't handle a heavy blitz and what happened ??? they blitz and sacked the QB. I think we could have realized this and I think BC should have realized it and checked off... I just don't know anymore. WE need an attitude change on the Oline. They should be embaressed to have such a pitiful game as that. I know onething...Bryant and Stallings would still be running them in the Auburn parking lot if they had an oline that played that bad. Shula needs to change the attitude of this oline and fast!!!!!

 

[Bama Reb]

to go after if we were to replace the oline coach or the OC. but we need something. we need an offense that is not so predictable in certain situations. the forst play of everygame we have come out throwing the ball and what happened the first play yesterday ??? they knew we were going to throw it and they knew the oline couldn't handle a heavy blitz and what happened ??? they blitz and sacked the QB. I think we could have realized this and I think BC should have realized it and checked off... I just don't know anymore. WE need an attitude change on the Oline. They should be embaressed to have such a pitiful game as that. I know onething...Bryant and Stallings would still be running them in the Auburn parking lot if they had an oline that played that bad. Shula needs to change the attitude of this oline and fast!!!!!

It looked a lot like last year's "vanilla" offense, but with just a tad more flavoring. Unfortunately, it wasn't enough to fool AU. They knew it was still vanilla.

 

[bayoutider]

OK Folks-If we could pick a candidate to replace our offensive coordinator and/or our offensive line coach, who would we go after?

After being registered for almost a year I would have thought you might have picked up that Coach Shula is in reality the OC. Shula isn't going anywhere.

 

[Jack Bourbon]

Mike Tice should be available soon.

 

[GulfCoastTider]

I hear Gerry DiNardo is looking for work.

 

[Roll_Tide_Gal]

What about Homer Smith?

 

[TIDE-HSV]

CHS's

health problem (diabetes) is too severe to coach again. You'd see the same offense, though. Dave Rader's offenses looked nothing like this...

 

[Crimsongator]

hmmmm......Of course, those plays seemed to work when we had a mobile, hungry kid in there at qb. Maybe it is not the playcalling. It is a combination of no depth, no confidence at qb, etc.....

I think that YOU are way out of line!

I wonder what a tema like BAMA could do if they had some real fans instead of the fair weather ones that it has?

 

[gottarun2win]

Connelly had a good line last year

While watching another implosion of the line yesterday I rushed to throw blame at Connelly - then thought about it a minute and realized that last year and the year before our line played pretty well - and earlier in the year they did beyond our expectations. We are just a young line with no leadership (i.e., broken leg) - TB did the best he could but it wasn't easy to take over center with the two biggest games ahead of you.

Frankly, Brodie has been shell-shocked for a while. I argued (to anyone in earshot) last week in the second half to put JP in and I argued again yesterday - not because Brodie is bad, or a loser. Because he was ineffective at leading the offense. Even if JP did nothing, it would give Brodie an opportunity to sit back and watch what was going on for a few series and maybe see that he could have escaped some of the rush. JP did an excellent job of stepping up, moving around, and feeling the rush so as to get rid of the ball in time. Remember, this is Brodie's first full year and he showed some inexperience when hurried. This is just the unfortunate consequence of not having two or three years experience behind you. Coach Shula did the pro thing and kept the starter in to go down with the ship - in college, it is ok to let them sit out a series or two to calm down. Plus, it gives JP an opportunity to spark the offense. Water under the bridge now.

I feel bad for the team, but honestly, they weren't prepared. We didn't have a good plan to start the game and their heads weren't in it. Inexcusable for a game of this magnitude. Shula is still a young coach and is still learning. He may be better off giving over the offense to the offensive coordinator and just manage the game. But then, that is easy to say when we lose, isn't it? I guess the week off he gave them (as far as hitting goes, at least) didn't pay off.

I hate we were in the hole so early - and hearing the smugness of auburn players and fans really grates on you - but hey, they deserve it and can rub it in all they want until we show enough respect for the game to show up on time.

Regardless, a great year for us. I'll take 9 or 10 wins this year and next without complaint. Losing is tough, but overall we had a great regular season.

 

[bamar]

the offensive line is obviously a major problem. 11 sacks in one game. the tackles were being manhandled the whole game. we had to use the freshmen tight ends to block, and they did not have the experience to do a good job of that either. then we had to keep mcclain in for blocking. before long we could only send two receivers out for passes. i agree we should have just stayed with the run, and we did in the second half. if you check it. auburn only scored one touchdown the second half. they scored 21 points in the first quarter. they had a plan and executed it perfectly. field position was the difference, and it worked. talking about the offensive game plan. i watched the same game plan back in the seventies when the miami dolphins went 17 and 0 winning the super bowl against my redskins. don shula was the coach. many dont remember that miami team. bob griese was a qb that was a possession passer to bob warfield. had two great running backs in larry csonka, and jim kiick. i see a great resemblance in the tide offense. except they had a great offensive line. i look at brodie, mcclain, and darby, receivers hall, brown. same makeup, and same type plays. i wonder.

 

[kwftide]

I think our offensive gameplan is fine.

However, it's hard to run it effectively with zero help from the O-line.

I think we need either:

1. New O-line techniques taught by the current coach.

2. New O-line techniques taught by some other coach.

Bottom line: We aren't getting it done on the O-line!

 

[Littlewing]

the offensive line is obviously a major problem. 11 sacks in one game. the tackles were being manhandled the whole game. we had to use the freshmen tight ends to block, and they did not have the experience to do a good job of that either. then we had to keep mcclain in for blocking. before long we could only send two receivers out for passes. i agree we should have just stayed with the run, and we did in the second half. if you check it. auburn only scored one touchdown the second half. they scored 21 points in the first quarter. they had a plan and executed it perfectly. field position was the difference, and it worked. talking about the offensive game plan. i watched the same game plan back in the seventies when the miami dolphins went 17 and 0 winning the super bowl against my redskins. don shula was the coach. many dont remember that miami team. bob griese was a qb that was a possession passer to bob warfield. had two great running backs in larry csonka, and jim kiick. i see a great resemblance in the tide offense. except they had a great offensive line. i look at brodie, mcclain, and darby, receivers hall, brown. same makeup, and same type plays. i wonder.

not nitpicking but i think bama shut them out the second half.

 

[sh4bama]

I wonder what a tema like BAMA could do if they had some real fans instead of the fair weather ones that it has?

This has been the biggest concern as a BAMA FAN for all my life. We as BAMA fans have a unrealistic expectation of perfection each year. This year preseason we all (most of us) were looking at a 7-4 or worst season. As the year built at we went 7-0 / 8-0 / 9-0 the hype built. Now 2 losses.... LSU was a game, the Barn handed us our tails. Now we scream about, coaching, talent, preparation etc..... Paul Finebaum now has material to last the summer :eek2:

The loss to AU will sting, we all have to face our peers at work and after a few weeks it will subside and the long summer of waiting will begin, speculation, signing day and then we will start our journey of unrealistic expectation into 2006.

A few things to remember, this is still a program that will still feel the effects of the NCAA persecution for 2 to 3 more years.

I am hoping (in vain) that we will see 2005 for what it is (was), a glimpse into what the future holds.

Questions that are being beat to death.

(Coaching changes)
Receivers / OL / Offensive Coordinator, I wonder how many programs with 9 wins are looking for wholesale changes?

(Vanilla Offense)
I AGREE the offense went into a safe mode, much like you laptop when it's got problems :biggrin: . Coach Shula's offense from what I observe as a fan, is a balanced game where the pass and the run set each up. The safe mode was brought on based on our weak line play, poor catching skills and to be honest (I am a huge Brodie supporter) a QB who has a problem with touch that was highlighted by the sack monster :mad2: that grabbed hold late in the year.

The question I pose to Alabama fans, for the season 2005 is 9-2 before the bowl more than you really expected?

As for changes in the team, do we trust Coach Shula to build our program?
I as one voice in the Bama nation, think we are in good hands. I think Coach Shula has grown as a coach. I think he will continue to grow.

Will there be staff changes, yes I do believe that but I know they are CMS to make.

 

[ed4tide4u2]

health problem (diabetes) is too severe to coach again. You'd see the same offense, though. Dave Rader's offenses looked nothing like this...

I see your point and agree. The blame being placed on the OC may be misdirected. That leads to a more interesting question but I dare not go there. The answer appears obvious.

 

[RamJam]

Well ya can't make chicken salad outta cheap ground beef... (an edited version of that saying...)

 

[Tide-N-Texas]

1st Choice: Go after Mike Summers(OL) and Paul Petrino (QB/OC)from Louisville.

http://uoflsports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/summers_mike00.html

http://uoflsports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/petrino_paul00.html

2nd Choice: Go after Pittman from No. Illinois as OL coach and Kiffin from USC as QB/OC. (Or Norm Chow as QB/OC if the rumors are true he is unhappy in the NFL.)

http://www3.niu.edu/athletics/football/coaching_staff/pittman.html

http://usctrojans.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/kiffin_lane00.html

I would think we would be able to offer Summers and Petrino more then Louisville would pay them. I know NIU could not come close to paying Pittman what we could pay him.

Kiffin from USC, that would be hard. Unless Shula made him assistant head coach and gave him full control over play calling. Then, offering him more money than USC might work.

 

[thunderz7]

We definitely don't need a change at HC.
Shula is making progress in all areas.

Being that Shula is really the OC, and main play caller,
that will most likely stay the same.
I do wish there was more of a realization that this is college football and not Pro.
So with Rader as OC, and Shula really OC, I see and expect no changes.

As to O-line, I have benn against the Technique used by Connelly since Price was named HC and brought that here.
If there is not a change, things will not change in SEC games.
Just like the Urban-O, some things don't go in the SEC, and either have to addapt or change totally.

Can Connelly coach a power drive blocking style?
If not someone else needs to do it.
With a 50/50 pass/run style, that Shula seems to want,
that 50% run needs to be power.
If not then to 80-20 pass, and play the Price O, (but you'll never win big in the SEC with it)

Minnesota knows how to run block.
If we run-block like that we can pass as we wish.
Send Connelly on a paid vacation to MINN. to learn, or hire the MINN. O-line coach.
Bottom line get a coacha nd technique that doesn't automatically allow the D to penetrate the line of Scrimmage.

T7