Ole Miss Scrimmage -good as advertised?

tidefan23

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I heard from an Ole Miss booster today about their scrimmage on Saturday. Their OL was the worst, and many fans have come down to earth as a result. Snead was rushed all day. Massie, who isn't even on the first team, was beat badly over half-a-dozen times. The mood was grim. :)
 
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Ha, well in fairness, scrimmages are always misleading. Never as good nor as bad as it seems.

I'm still thinking the Ole Miss hype is too high.

Yep - I'm not drinking that particular brand of Kool-Aid until they've beaten an upper tier conference team or two.
 
I heard from an Ole Miss booster today about their scrimmage on Saturday. Their OL was the worst, and many fans have come down to earth as a result. Snead was rushed all day. Massie, who isn't even on the first team, was beat badly over half-a-dozen times. The mood was grim. :)

Didn't I hear Tony Barnhart say over the weekend that Ole Miss lost both a defensive lineman and an offensive lineman to the first round of the NFL draft, and that you don't do that without it affecting your team?
 
C'mon guys...this just means that their D-Line is unstoppable and that every team needs to fear them. It has nothing to do with them replacing the best Offensive Lineman they have had in God knows how long.
 
Ha, well in fairness, scrimmages are always misleading. Never as good nor as bad as it seems.

I'm still thinking the Ole Miss hype is too high.

True.
But I'm hoping it was just bad enough to cause a little division on the team.
I can already hear the wheels on the wagon starting to creak a little. :cool:

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This is not to bad mouth Ole Miss as I hate to badmouth any of our opponents, but I've been saying since the Rebel love fest began at the end of last season, "You expect me to believe that this team can do what a team led by Eli Manning and Patrick Willis COULDN'T do?!? [insert elaborate expletive to express overwhelming disbelief].

I don't think that their O-Line will be terrible, but I do think if they lose one piece, they're shot. I don't think Snead will be anywhere near awful. In fact, I believe he'll be stellar, but he still makes mistakes. And his mistakes will cost them a game or two. The same thing that was said about the offensive line can be said about the defensive front. From 1-4 they're stout, but who's behind them on the depth chart? I just don't see it. I have their ceiling this year as 3rd in the SEC West.

That being said, I've been wrong before. That is, after all, why they play the game. Just my two cents.
 
Not Believing the Myth (UM to fall short of expectations)

Just so there will be a pre-season record of it, count me among the camp of UM non-believers. They'll have a decent record and go to a bowl, but a lot of that is b/c of their cake schedule. SE Louisiana AND N AZ?! They could go undefeated and almost not deserve a BCS game! Memphis, UAB and road games vs. AU, SC, Vandy and MSU? Penn State has a tougher schedule than this.

Still they won't be any better than 8-4 at the very best. Everyone thinks they'll be undefeated going into the Bama game. Well, with their schedule a decent team should be, but the sad reality is that they will probably flub up at least one of those should-be-wins. They may quite possibly be twice beaten given the way they always let Memphis hang around and their propensity to lose to Vanderbilt. They also get S Car before Bama, so given a few bad breaks they could be 1-3 and putting it in the tank after a 56-10 home-field dismantling at the hands of the Crimson Tide.

Do they have good skill players? Yes, just like Clemson did last year. Is Greg Hardy back? Yes, but now without 1st round pick Peria Jerry drawing the opposing OL's attention to the middle of UM's DL. He’s still a good player, but I bet we see this year how much better he was when Jerry lined up just a few yards away.

They're still just "Ole Miss" folks. Let's not mince words here as I paraphrase Colin Cowherd. Mississippi is a dog-vomit program. Despite what delusional callers to the Finebaum show may say, their football "tradition" is on par with Minnesota's--hung in there pretty tough til the early '60s and then dove headlong into oblivion never to return. Their own fans/alumni were quoted in Warren St. John's book as saying something to the effect of 'we may not win the game but we never lose a party.' And Jesus Christ was quoted as saying "where a man's treasure is, there will his heart be also." "Ole Miss" treasures revelry, Alabama treasures victory. The heart of a reveler is not the heart of a champion.

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All my buddy's have been drinking the ole miss kool aid (all are bama fans by the way). I've been telling them they won't win the west with out a o~line but they don't want to hear that. Looks like I may be right, well I hope I am anyway!
 
"You expect me to believe that this team can do what a team led by Eli Manning and Patrick Willis COULDN'T do?!? [insert elaborate expletive to express overwhelming disbelief].

OM has one of the better OL coaches in the country, I wouldn't be too worried about their OL. Sure they'll have growing pains like Bama, & their performance ceiling isn't as high as Bama's. The thing that really really really helps out OM is they have essentially a 2 game season, Bama & LSU. I think they may even have the week off before both of those games & both games are at home. I wouldn't sleep on the Rebels, but I think they deserve to be #16-12 in the polls, not hovering at the top 5.

Their true problems lie in a weak LB core and generally weak back 7. It was either the 7th or 8th game of the year last year before any OM LB recorded a pass defense stat, ie pbu, int, etc. I'd pick on em with the TE's & slot WR until they had to pull a LB in favor of a safety then cram it down their throats... just my idea.

A super fun guy to watch is their DE Hardy, a bit of a nut job, but maybe the best talent as a pass-rusher the SEC's seen in a decade or so. AS stoned him last year though!:eek: (he was playing on a bum ankle & in the coaches dog house all last season, looks to have things together this year)

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OM will be a good FB team this year and their front four is really good, but depth is a concern. However, I don't think they are a top ten team.
 
Who cares if they are ranked high or not all it will do in the end is make them more sad when they get thumped by Bama and LSU at the least. We as Bama fans know that preseason rankings mean nothing and in the end can make you more disappointed than anything Let the Ole Miss people talk all they want and be happy for a little bit. Their reality check will be coming later in the fall.
 
Ole Miss' bye week comes the second week of the season after Memphis in game one. They'll end the season on an 11-straight-week run. Not exactly where you'd like a bye as a coach. There is a good probability that their first string might not play the whole game week one anyway. They also have little time to lick their wounds while playing the rest of their OOC schedule and their entire SEC slate.

People - writers - look at the schedule and see an easy OOC schedule, a favorable road schedule, and their two toughest opponents at home. They don't look at that bye week placement which kind of diminishes how "easy" that schedule looks on the surface. We are all aware that football players play through many bumps and bruises that accumulate during the season which would sideline most non-athletes and that bye week is usually the time that teams recharge and heal up for the stretch run. Ole Miss' bye is effectively useless to that end. They'll drop a few more games than expected simply because I think they'll run out of gas by November.

I've said before, it would not surprise me if Ole Miss beats us but the race still comes down to LSU and Bama in the end. We're their first huge home game, they could possibly be in the top 5 at this point and they have tons of motivation after falling to us 5 straight with 4 straight games decided by the final possession and by 3 points. But Alabama - as physical as Saban likes his teams - will leave them with plenty of bumps and bruises that will exhaust them before they even get to LSU.
 
But Alabama - as physical as Saban likes his teams - will leave them with plenty of bumps and bruises that will exhaust them before they even get to LSU.

That's a good point and I'd like to think we leave them with a loss, too. Either way, I admit they have the team to win 8-9 games but still think they will drop a couple of important ones due to the hype (Bama, LSU) and maybe one they shouldn't out of sheer complacency (Memphis, Arkansas).
 

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