Link: Per Lane Kiffin-"Dynasties are over"

[Bamabuzzard]

ESPN Link

It's a good read. He doesn't say anything we don't already know about the new landscape of CFB. Just let's you know that coaches realize how the landscape has changed and how different things are going to look.

 

[PGDocBama]

It's true, until the next dynasty.

 

[PA Tide Fan]

Kiffin is correct and it's why I believe Saban's record of 7 NC's will never be broken.

 

[Elefantman]

It's good to know that the pinnacle of CFB will always be Alabama and Nick Saban.

 

[Padreruf]

LK is right on target...we will have to adjust to the new reality. I do think that the conference champions will mostly come from a group of Bama, UGA, Tenn, Texas, UO, and LSU. TA&M, Auburn, Fla, OM, and SC head the 2nd tier. All the others are perennial bottom fishers in the SEC -- though they could have winning records overall.

Vandy is perilous in that if they lose a key player (their QB) they could be down for the count.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. I do not like the current setup of the SEC and CFB...

BBKing said it best:

 

[colbysullivan]

In other news…water….wet

 

[Cruloc]

In other news…water….wet

``Water is not wet; wetness is a description of the sensation experienced when a liquid, like water, comes into contact with a solid surface. Therefore, while water can make other things wet, it itself is not considered wet.''

Interesting

 

[colbysullivan]

``Water is not wet; wetness is a description of the sensation experienced when a liquid, like water, comes into contact with a solid surface. Therefore, while water can make other things wet, it itself is not considered wet.''

Interesting

Pfft

 

[92tide]

It's good to know that the pinnacle of CFB will always be Alabama and Nick Saban.

and that the closest thing georgia will ever have to any “football dynasty” has a bio ole bama asterisk

 

[KrAzY3]

It's an easy thing to say, but...

It's not necessarily true. It's a bit like saying free agency ended the dynasties in pro sports, which at first glance makes sense. If you could just keep a Bill Russell or a Babe Ruth, having a dynasty was much easier. But we still saw dynasties form after that.

Kiffin's statements are under the assumption that rosters will still have to radically change from year to year, but that's not necessarily the case. We're seeing the rise of extended eligibility, I predicted that with NIL and Alabama is about to face a guy playing in his six year of college football.

How does that apply to potential dynasties? Well, let's say Oregon football ends up with a pretty good trio of skill players. Let's say for example, it's along the lines of Jacob Coker, Ardarius Stewart, and Derrick Henry.

I chose Stewart (instead of Ridley) and the year Coker was there for a reason. Coker and Stewart both made less than a million a year under their rookie contract. With current NIL payments, paying them more than that, especially for a program like Oregon is trivial. Even Henry was making less than two million a year!

So, you offer Stewart and Coker a million a year to keep playing college, and you expect continued development from both of them. You pay Henry 3 million a year or so, and he continues to brutalize college football. You can build a dynasty around that sort of thing. To apply that even within current confines, Cam Newton only played 3 years in the FBS and one of those years he played little enough to redshirt. So, you can have Cam Newton at least two more years without changing the status quo.

That's just one scenario, but NIL, rich boosters, and breaking the eligibility rules will open new pathways to domination. What might be more accurate is that we can't necessarily expect the same dynasties we've seen in the past moving forward, because now it's more about deep pockets than anything else.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Nick said it best that the key is to pay the right players. There are teams already who've invested a lot of NIL money into players that aren't working out. I wonder how Freeze feels now about his big investment into Jackson Arnold? The guy cannot take advantage of a very talented WR group, holds the ball too long and has lost back to back games.

Whichever team ends up paying the right players will be the team that wins. Let's hope our program is one of those programs.

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

I think it is too early to say they are over. If Ohio State wins the national championship this year suddenly the word dynasty will be back.

The SEC does seem to be in a place where the top teams are not nearly as far ahead of the bottom teams as they have been previously. And there are definitely teams around the country like Vandy and Indiana having way more success than they historically have.

Idk it seems too soon to be too confident in this

 

[DzynKingRTR]

and that the closest thing georgia will ever have to any “football dynasty” has a bio ole bama asterisk

uga folks are losing it over Kiffin's statement. they still think they are the new dynasty.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

uga folks are losing it over Kiffin's statement. they still think they are the new dynasty.

Bless their hearts...

 

[tusks_n_raider]

Kiffin is correct and it's why I believe Saban's record of 7 NC's will never be broken.

It will never be broken or tied or close to it because of how the game has so quickly changed.

It’s as safe as Cy Young’s Win total, DiMaggio’s 56 game hit streak, Rickey’s SB records, Ripken’s Consecutive Starts streak..etc.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

uga folks are losing it over Kiffin's statement. they still think they are the new dynasty.

They don’t understand what it means.

Winning 3 Titles in a 3-5 year span is the 1st requirement.

Then continuing to be at the Top and winning another 1-2 more Titles before a 10 year period is over.

You dominate your Conference in addition to that and win that Title almost every year.

UGA won 2 NCs in a row and 3 SEC Titles in an 8 year span.

2022 is the only year they won both the NC and the SEC Title.

I mean that’s Good… Great even and most teams would kill for that success but a Dynasty it is not.

 

[TideEngineer08]

uga folks are losing it over Kiffin's statement. they still think they are the new dynasty.

I have seen the most bizarre cope from them over the past week. They claim they are our "Super Bowl" and that's why they can't beat us. In addition, they go on and on about Alabama not scoring in the second half as if that means anything at all. They only scored 7 themselves.

 

[RdunawayTX]

After Tennessee tears, Bulldog tears are the most delicious.

And the Dawg boards have been full of tears and melty goodness this week.

 

[bamaga]

and that the closest thing georgia will ever have to any “football dynasty” has a bio ole bama asterisk

the Bama mystique permeated Thursday night football last night. Matt Stafford (UGA) VS Mac Jones. In overtime, At home, the Rams forego the chip shot FG to tie the game and go for it on 4th and 1 and don’t make it. Mac Jones Wins Again!

 

[bamaga]

I disagree. With the right coach, a Dynasty can exist. I hear about NiL and the transfer portal, and that is helping some lesser teams, but as an example, Alabama has 64 four and five star players on the roster. That is three deep on offense and defense. The rest are three star kids . It’s not like top teams are fielding walkons. And those numbers are after Bama lost 30 transfers after Nick left. And with the new 100 scholarship rule, I can see those numbers getting better. The only difference is good teams will be younger because the older players that have sat for 2 years will transfer. Upper classmen and
Experienced depth will be a premium.