Link: Pickett fake slide leads to touchdown, should this be addressed with a rule?

[AlexanderFan]

Wake coach: Pitt QB's fake slide a slippery slope

After his Wake Forest defense was victimized by a fake slide from Pitt quarterback Kenny Pickett, Demon Deacons coach Dave Clawson thinks the NCAA should outlaw such a move.

www.espn.com

I think there has to be something done, this was an intentional egregious misuse of this theme of keeping quarterbacks safe. I agree with the idea that it was a brilliant play by Pickett, but you can’t discount the defenders having to pull up to avoid a penalty. I remember Kordell Stewart do the same heading for the sidelines and then cut up field.

Thoughts?

 

[CraigD]

Yes. That was dirty. I’m not 100% sure it was intentional, but the affect on the defenders was undeniable.

EDIT: In the article it’s reported that the QB said he did it on purpose.

 

[NationalTitles18]

Smart play, but I agree. The only question is are we going to make it subjective indicators from "body language" (God help us) or make it like a fair catch where they must simply wave their hand and be down right then and there (I like a positive sign you are giving yourself up better).

 

[TideEngineer08]

Yes. He should have had a penalty from the spot of the infraction just like a fake fair catch. That’s complete bush league.

 

[Bama-94-00]

More like preparing to slide here imo. The QB leaned back a bit and set up to slide but that was about it. Seems pretty minor to me.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Smart play, but I agree. The only question is are we going to make it subjective indicators from "body language" (God help us) or make it like a fair catch where they must simply wave their hand be down right then and there (I like a positive sign you are giving yourself up better).

Few will like this but the answer is to remove the ludicrous 'slide' rule. QB tucks and runs and he's fair game like any other player. Don't wanna take the hit? Get OOB or don't run it.

That removes subjectivity from the rule and disallows that sort of garbage play.

 

[TideEngineer08]

More like preparing to slide here imo. The QB leaned back a bit and set up to slide but that was it.

Yeah the play is supposed to be dead where the QB initiates the slide. He initiated the slide clearly and the defenders slowed up, as they’ve been taught to do over the last decade plus.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Few will like this but the answer is to remove the ludicrous 'slide' rule. QB tucks and runs and he's fair game like any other player. Don't wanna take the hit? Get OOB or don't run it.

That removes subjectivity from the rule and disallows that sort of garbage play.

Yeah, I'm with ya.

 

[NationalTitles18]

More like preparing to slide here imo. The QB leaned back a bit and set up to slide but that was it.

And that should not be legal, if safety is the goal (not to mention fair play and sportsmanship).

 

[TideEngineer08]

Few will like this but the answer is to remove the ludicrous 'slide' rule. QB tucks and runs and he's fair game like any other player. Don't wanna take the hit? Get OOB or don't run it.

That removes subjectivity from the rule and disallows that sort of garbage play.

Agreed completely.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

That was bush league and he'd have never tried that in the SEC because he would have gotten killed right then and there.

I mean, if Gus Malzahn in all his mad scientist nonsense didn't think of that you have to figure it was fear it would backfire badly on him.

 

[NationalTitles18]

Few will like this but the answer is to remove the ludicrous 'slide' rule. QB tucks and runs and he's fair game like any other player. Don't wanna take the hit? Get OOB or don't run it.

That removes subjectivity from the rule and disallows that sort of garbage play.

Well, I mean they can always just fall down and you still can't hit late. The rule either needs ditched or clarified for both safety and sportsmanship.

 

[Bama-94-00]

Yeah the play is supposed to be dead where the QB initiates the slide. He initiated the slide clearly and the defenders slowed up, as they’ve been taught to do over the last decade plus.

OK, but it is not so clear to me. He hadn't actually starting sliding and was still live, imo.

 

[TideEngineer08]

OK, but it is not so clear to me. He hadn't actually starting sliding and was still live, imo.

All I can say is that it was clear to those three defenders about to level him.

 

[NationalTitles18]

OK, but it is not so clear to me. He hadn't actually starting sliding and was still live, imo.

And this is why it has to be a positive sign like a fair catch signal because there's always one...

 

[AlexanderFan]

Smart play, but I agree. The only question is are we going to make it subjective indicators from "body language" (God help us) or make it like a fair catch where they must simply wave their hand and be down right then and there (I like a positive sign you are giving yourself up better).

I like your idea. Either remove the rule altogether and let them play, or have the “fair catch” signal and stop their progress right there. Either works for me.

 

[JayBama_in_PCOLA]

Once a QB gets blown up, they streak to fix it.

 

[KrAzY3]

They have to work out some sort of fair catch signal/rule here. The idea is if you signal fair catch you can't advance and you can't be hit. It's a clear thing. The "give themselves up" rule where players can't be hit clearly has a loophole. So, you have to close it, seems pretty simple though once a player makes an indication he's giving himself up the play ends there. The rule kind of covers that in that they are actually down at the start of the slide, but somehow he started the slide without being considered as starting the slide.

 

[Bama-94-00]

And this is why it has to be a positive sign like a fair catch signal because there's always one...

Sure, a clear signal would take care of it.

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

Gotta get rid of this. Dangerous move