Link: Pickett fake slide leads to touchdown, should this be addressed with a rule?

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I think it should be a penalty. If they can rule on targeting on a replay they could do the same with this. He was clearly starting his slide. What he did it again and the defensive player after falling it once cleans his clock if he tried to fake it again. He gets hit with a penalty.
 
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Smart play, but I agree. The only question is are we going to make it subjective indicators from "body language" (God help us) or make it like a fair catch where they must simply wave their hand and be down right then and there (I like a positive sign you are giving yourself up better).
It’s like when a QB is scrambling and is past the LOS but still acts as if he will pass to freeze the defender. Aaron Rogers does it all the time.
 

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FWIW I'm pretty sure ANY player can slide and give themselves up. It's just QBs are usually the only one to do it because they are less ready for that kind of hit and are more valuable to the team normally.

It's not a QB specific rule
True, NCAA rule 4-1-3-III.

Shouldn't be a rule, however.
 

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I've noticed Bryce Young make a weird motion on several runs that appeared for an instance that he was going to slide then he kept running. I don't know if he was faking a start of a slide, starting a slide then changing his mind, or just making a weird looking step as part of his run while looking to change direction.
 

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While I agree with the general sentiment that faking a slide is an abuse of the rule, if I were an official, I would literally have to interview the guy after the game and then throw the flag. The guy barely broke stride and that occurred during a directional shift. The defense may have 'let up' but that could just as easily have been a reaction to the directional change. I think if you throw a flag on that evidence then it opens up another interpretation worm can akin to the targeting rule.
 
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NCAA didn't wait around, bans the cheap move:

It’s the way we figured it would go, another subjective rule. How about if a quarterback crosses the line of scrimmage he becomes a ball carrier? Easy enough rule. No sliding interpretations and it allows the player to assess the risk/reward scenarios for their actions.
 

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It’s the way we figured it would go, another subjective rule. How about if a quarterback crosses the line of scrimmage he becomes a ball carrier? Easy enough rule. No sliding interpretations and it allows the player to assess the risk/reward scenarios for their actions.
That would require changing the fundamental NCAA rule regarding sliding, which allows any ball-carrier to slide to avoid contact.

They SHOULD get rid of that rule, imo, but this is a stop-gap measure to stop that sort of trash until the off-season, where they can take the time to address it.
 

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This should be reviewable so that officials would know where to place the ball. And an opposing coach should be able to CHALLENGE a FAKE SLIDE if the BLIND officials do not see it.
 
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This should be reviewable so that officials would know where to place the ball. And an opposing coach should be able to CHALLENGE a FAKE SLIDE if the BLIND officials do not see it.
We'll see how they address it after the season is over.

It's not a common enough issue to warrant overthinking it, IMO. But I'm happy to see the NCAA moving to stop this sort of cheap garbage.
 

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I've noticed Bryce Young make a weird motion on several runs that appeared for an instance that he was going to slide then he kept running. I don't know if he was faking a start of a slide, starting a slide then changing his mind, or just making a weird looking step as part of his run while looking to change direction.
You serious, Clark?
 

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I've noticed Bryce Young make a weird motion on several runs that appeared for an instance that he was going to slide then he kept running. I don't know if he was faking a start of a slide, starting a slide then changing his mind, or just making a weird looking step as part of his run while looking to change direction.
The closest to this that I've seen is Young leaning to one way to fake out defenders.
 

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A word about, "well you can't really tell for sure that he's faking a slide."

He initiates the slide beginning at about the 43 yard line of Wake Forest, by slowing up and leaning back in an exaggerated manner, then drags his leg (you can see the little rubber pellets flying up for about 2 yards), just as one would do when attempting a real slide. As soon as he begins his lean back, you can see the 3 defenders who are about to engage him pull up because.... the dude is obviously about to slide.

This was a chicken move. And then to see him celebrate in the endzone like a huge doosh... Maybe I'm being too dramatic but if that were my son I would probably be all over him for what he had done.
 

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Should be the same penalty as calling for a fair catch and then trying to run the ball. I think that's unsportsmanlike conduct. I don't recall this ever happening. I am sure we would have seen a highlight of it if it did happen before. They have to update to rules to make that a penalty before next year. I do agree this is a bush league move by the QB. I think it's analogous to a MMA fighter going for the friendly fist bump to start a round and then faking that to knock the other guy out.
I thought the ball was ruled dead, and they just placed the ball at the spot it was caught.
 

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This should be reviewable so that officials would know where to place the ball. And an opposing coach should be able to CHALLENGE a FAKE SLIDE if the BLIND officials do not see it.
It's funny to me how some people seem to want even more replay; whereas, I wish they would get rid of it. Make a call and play the game. Hahaha, to each his own.
 
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