Pictorial Evidence of the Apparent Current Definition of Targeting

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Did you see the OT play in Oregon and Penn st? dude hits with crown on qb running the ball, no targeting.
Please NCAA make it make sense....
 

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Due to the speed of the game, I cut the on-field refs a bit of slack. They still should be better, but given how fast things happen, and with only a couple of tenths of a second to make a call, I get how they could miss some.

But how the review crew so often gets it wrong and/or inconsistently-enforced is beyond me. They have essentially infinite sight angles, all synched up and advanceable frame by frame, and an infinity of time. Yet they still mess it up.

And yeah, how Smith's play is targeting, but the UGA guy's isn't, is just the latest in a long line of examples.

SEC refs, including the centralized review crew, are the worst.
 
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Smith’s targeting call was correct and the “crown of the helmet” part of the rule that got him is there to protect HIM from compressing the vertebrae in his neck and paralyzing him. You need to see what you are hitting. In years past that hit would be called spearing.
The UGA player launching himself like Superman into the pile headfirst towards a literally defenseless player who was being held up violates so many aspects of the rule it’s not funny.
I do wonder if a suspension for the first half of their next game can be done retroactively because the officials absolutely flubbed that one.
 
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The rule and the penalties handed out need to be updated. They have done a good job of eliminating that kind of tackling in today’s game for the most part.
 

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Smith’s targeting call was correct and the “crown of the helmet” part of the rule that got him is there to protect HIM from compressing the vertebrae in his neck and paralyzing him. You need to see what you are hitting. In years past that hit would be called spearing.
The UGA player launching himself like Superman into the pile headfirst towards a literally defenseless player who was being held up violates so many aspects of the rule it’s not funny.
I do wonder if a suspension for the first half of their next game can be done retroactively because the officials absolutely flubbed that one.
I will say. That was some impressive athleticism to execute such a bone headed play. Dude kept over a pile to spear a standing player from above in the head. Dude will probably ace his Vertical test.
 

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Unless / until they can make the call consistently, I wish they'd drop the foul.

I get the reasoning, I really do - but the SEC refs are SO BAD that it truly feels like it's used to affect the outcome of the game rather than enforced uniformly.
To me that horsecollar 28 received was far more dangerous than a hands first headbutt in traffic.
 

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It makes me wonder if helmets need to be less safe/protective in targeting-style hits so that players will stop doing it. These are not the kinds of hits you could pull off in an old-style leather helmet or a rugby helmet. This isn't an idea to get more players hurt, just to be clear. It's to get them to stop doing the battering ram thing.
 

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To me that horsecollar 28 received was far more dangerous than a hands first headbutt in traffic.
The second angle of that horse collar tackle shown on TV was very scary looking. If the ball carrier's foot had caught just a little on the turf there would have been serious injury (knee, foot, or hip). It really demonstrated the reason for that being illegal and fortunately didn't come with an injury.
 
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It makes me wonder if helmets need to be less safe/protective in targeting-style hits so that players will stop doing it. These are not the kinds of hits you could pull off in an old-style leather helmet or a rugby helmet. This isn't an idea to get more players hurt, just to be clear. It's to get them to stop doing the battering ram thing.
I understand and am susceptible to what what you’re saying - moral hazard and all that. Won’t ever happen though.

I’d be willing to bet this “technique” took a generation or more to take hold. It’ll probably take another generation to eradicate it, starting at Pop Warner level, assuming it can be consistently coached out for that long…
 

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Not targeting, but take a look at the 4th down play where LT Overton tripped up the UGA RB.

The RB clearly had a grip on Overton’s facemask. It should have been our ball 15 yards upfield.

No way the call would have been missed if Overton had hold of the RB’s facemask.

SEC refs, example #6,349,853.
 
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