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RamaJamaDog

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It amazes me how little most people really know about football. All the talk about schemes and play calling etc.

I have an idea.....

take Auburn and Lsu and put their freshmen and softmores on the offensive line and let's play. What do you think would happen. Our defense would overwhelm them. I hope you get the point. Relax and be patient!
 

Alanbama27

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RamaJamaDog said:
It amazes me how little most people really know about football. All the talk about schemes and play calling etc.

I have an idea.....

take Auburn and Lsu and put their freshmen and softmores on the offensive line and let's play. What do you think would happen. Our defense would overwhelm them. I hope you get the point. Relax and be patient!
It sickens me! Most of the idiots who write negative things about coaching don't have a clue and have either never played football in their lives or haven't played since grade school! They wouldn't know a good coaching decision if it bit them!

Here is a stat I just posted in another thread that was started by a genius who thinks Bob Connelly can't coach!

"His offensive line helped Washington State average 436.8 yards per game in 2002, the 11th-best mark in NCAA stats. "

I think the man knows how to coach when you've got the players who can execute your game plan!
 

wisten

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When you see one or two of your offensive linemen staring blankly for a second before rushing into the backfield to pickup the missed assignment, that is youth IMHO, not necessarily coaching.
 

Redwood Forrest

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I am proud of a 9-2 season. Unlike some folk, I remeber 4-9 and 6-6. This year seems awesome to me. We went 3-0 in the POWERFUL SEC East. We lost in OT to the SEC West Champion. Some folk are NOT happy if they can't find something to gripe about. Roll Tide.
 

Alanbama27

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wisten said:
When you see one or two of your offensive linemen staring blankly for a second before rushing into the backfield to pickup the missed assignment, that is youth IMHO, not necessarily coaching.
Actually it's 100% youth! Other than that, thanks for the knowledgeable post...they are rare today!
 

talisitider

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RamaJamaDog said:
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I have an idea.....

take Auburn and Lsu and put their freshmen and softmores on the offensive line and let's play.

So that's the problem.... softmores.... :biggrin:

They were young week 1, that was some time ago. You can be young and have better footwork and agility..... We've had young lines before and they've managed. The old Tubs youth excuse is old at week 11.....
 

Boclive

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I thought we were not very good on the offensive line when we had Smiley, Britt, Mathis, Ephraim, Portis, and Atlas Herrion.

And they are all still playing somewhere.

I don't think it's the players.

It amazes me how little some people know about football, also. :tongue:
 

wisten

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I thought we were not very good on the offensive line when we had Smiley, Britt, Mathis, Ephraim, Portis, and Atlas Herrion.

And they are all still playing somewhere.

I don't think it's the players.

It amazes me how little some people know about football, also
That is why it is so refreshing to see posts from those who are not only proud of their lack of knowledge, but are so giving with it. :) Just teasing you :)
 

mikeua69

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Boclive said:
I thought we were not very good on the offensive line when we had Smiley, Britt, Mathis, Ephraim, Portis, and Atlas Herrion.

And they are all still playing somewhere.

I don't think it's the players.

It amazes me how little some people know about football, also. :tongue:
Exactly. It's funny that people like Earle and Jess have been discussing the problems with CBC's techinques for quite a while now. I guess they know nothing about football either.
 

Proxigean Tide

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Yes, alot of the problem is youth. However, we also have to realize that blue chip offensive linemen haven't exactly been beating a path to Bama during the past 2-3 years.

With that said, I know some pee wee league players who could figure out how to block 4 rushing defenders with 5 offensive lineman and a fullback.

I'm not talking technique or strength, just stepping in front of someone and giving them a more tangible obstacle than air enroute to the QB. :) RTR.
 

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mikeua69 said:
Exactly. It's funny that people like Earle and Jess have been discussing the problems with CBC's techinques for quite a while now. I guess they know nothing about football either.
I have noticed they have quit trying to hammer their message home. Guess the nails bend trying to go into those hard heads. <G>
 

Crimson Surfer

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Bama is 9-2 going to a New Year's Day Bowl and all I hear is the Crimson sky is falling. Bama lost to a very good LSU team in overtime by 3 points and after trailing 21 zip in the first part of the 1st Qtr to Auburn they fought back trying to win the game but they lost by 10 points. That is a total of 14 points from a perfect record in a year that Bama is lucky to even have Croyle, Darby and Tim Castille well enough to play after severe injuries last year.

That plus a severe depth problem at nearly every position caused by the scholarship reductions from the NCAA probation and this team has over achieved in my opinion.

Correct me if I am wrong but I don't believe there is one Fran recruited offensive lineman that is playing on the offensive line now. The two players Taylor Britt (UAB transfer) and Kyle Tatum were both recruited as defensive players to Bama.

I am overwhelmed by negative talk about Coach Shula, Coach Radar, Coach Connelly, Pepsi instead of Coke, the entire offense line, blocking schemes, the running play selection, Brodie is not playing worth a darn and is not a good leader, etc.

Bama is 9-2 ranked # 14 with a chance at a 10 win season, heading into most likely a great bowl game and a lot of people thinking the year is already over and miserably complaining about the sorry state of Bama affairs.

Roll Tide!
 
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Bama323

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talisitider said:
So that's the problem.... softmores.... :biggrin:

They were young week 1, that was some time ago. You can be young and have better footwork and agility..... We've had young lines before and they've managed. The old Tubs youth excuse is old at week 11.....
The problem is more about depth than about youth. We don't have the depth right now that we will have in the next couple of years, or the depth that we had in the past due to NCAA probation. Think about it, we were only two players deep at center. In week 1, we had them both healthy, by week 10, our first stringer had a broke leg. Behind JB Closner, we had a senior who had never hardly played a snap before in D1. Why do you think he never played? He didn't play because he wasn't talented enough to start in the SEC!! Some of you people are so thick skulled you don't even try to look or sound like you have a lick of sense. Some of yall think Coach Shula should be able to win even if we had a team of midgets running around on the field. Sometimes, it comes down to more than coaching. If the best coach always won, I guess Bear Bryant never would have lost a game. What's your excuse for Bear Bryant only winning 1 game the first year he was at Texas A&M? What about the first year he came to Bama. Do you think he was a bad coach since he went only 6-4? Coach Bryant only went 6-5 in 1969 and 1970, was he a bad coach? :rolleyes: We need to give Mike Shula time to build this program back to where it used to be. Where it used to be is where we were when we had the talent and depth at every position so that when a player goes down because of an injury, there is someone there who can take his place without the team losing a step. Then we need someone behind that player so that when our second stringer goes down, there is someone there to take over and there not be much of a drop off. Folks, we have about 2 years before we will be back in that situation, and the only way we will get there is by recruiting and we only get to sign one class per year. Unless you want to be back on probation real quick, you Shula bashers need to shut up and give him a darn chance!! Period.
 

ua9899

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Bama has had an outstanding year. Our offense lost players in places we cannot afford to lose them and our inexperience showed. If we get our tenth win there is still a good chance we could finish the year in the top ten. Not too bad for a team that started the year not ranked in the top 25 and picked to come as far down as fifth in the division. There's a good chance we could come in third in the conference. I bet UThug would trade places.
 

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Crimson Surfer said:
Roll Tide
All I said was maybe we could consider taking a little bigger split between offensive linemen. That's all. I can handle losing to Auburn. I don't live in Alabama, and I'm not married to an Auburn grad. Plus, I know it's only a game.

I'm just talking about the x's and o's, really.

After the season, I may bring up something about the fundamental necessity to field every punt you can get to that is both in play and outside the 10 or 15 yard line.

There will be people that disagree.
 

RamaJamaDog

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Ok, then....

talisitider said:
So that's the problem.... softmores.... :biggrin:

They were young week 1, that was some time ago. You can be young and have better footwork and agility..... We've had young lines before and they've managed. The old Tubs youth excuse is old at week 11.....

Why is it rare to see any freshmen or softmores on the offensive line.
Auburn dosn't, Lsu dosn't, Tennessee didn't.

You don't know what you are talking about, but you have a right to!
 

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Folks, being a Bama fan is about expecting to win. We know we can't win them all, but we want to know why we didn't win after a loss. We struggle to find reasons that make sense. Being a Bama fan is not about saying, "I hope we get 'em next year." It is about saying, "We better get this problem figured out and whip their tails next year." I'm sorry if that doesn't go along with some of your sensitive ways, but let's remember that we all want the same thing- Bama victories. Roll Tide.
 

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RamaJamaDog said:
Why is it rare to see any freshmen or softmores on the offensive line.
Auburn dosn't, Lsu dosn't, Tennessee didn't.

You don't know what you are talking about, but you have a right to!

I know from personal experience that offensive line play is the hardest to learn on the entire field.

It is based on more on technique, schemes and footwork that is very difficult to learn. It doesn't show as much at the High School level when you are 300lbs against mainly 200+ lbs kids.

By the time these guys mature they will be much improved, I don't know that they will ever be SEC caliber, hopefully we'll develope these monsters we are signing this year, but also I will be shocked if they make an immediate contributions.

9-2 regular season = WHAT A YEAR..
 
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ihatefulmer

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I just can't see how people let 1 bad half of football, when I say bad I'm being nice, be the most memorable moment of a 9-2 season. Those of you who say it was the worse display of football they've ever seen have a very short memory. You only have to go back to the 03 season and the UGA game or last years USC game. Those games were just as ugly as the Auburn game. The only reason those people let this game eat at them so much is because it was AUBURN.

I for one will not let this 1 bad half take away from all the good that has come out of this season. We're not back just yet but we are sure as hell a lot closer than we were this time last year. We are back on the national scene again. We were on CBS 7 out of 11 games. After the UF game we were a regular story on ESPN. The sky's not falling at all. I see the sky is the limit for the next few years.
 

J.Will

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Some of you act like the offensive line problems manifested themselves either right after Closner went down or during the Auburn game. You know what? Our offensive line has been porous all year long, with the exception of maybe the SC game. It's not a recent thing. It's a trend and I for one would like to see it corrected come hell or high water. Whether that means a new coach, better players, or different schemes. I don't care! I want us to be able to rush, pass protect and our QB not to get laid out 11 times while five 300 pounders looking around with their thumbs up their butts.

Is that too much to ask?

J.
 

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