Retroactive Plus-1 scenarios, per Dennis Dodd

selmaborntidefan

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In Other Retroactive Scenarios

1966 - 1 Notre Dame vs 4 Georgia, 2 Michigan State vs 3 Alabama

Georgia prevailed in a close one, 17-10, led by Herschel Walker's father, Luke "Sky" Walker. Alabama routed Michigan State and Georgia on their way to the title, completing the first three-peat in modern college history.

1974 2 Alabama vs 5 USC, 3 Ohio State vs 4 Michigan

#1 Oklahoma is not permitted in this playoff due to being on probation. Alabama routs USC then survives a close one with Ohio State to win the national championship.

1975 - 1 Ohio State vs 4 Alabama, 2 Oklahoma vs 3 Texas A&M

In a rematch of the 1974 championship game, Alabama pulverizes Ohio State, 50-2, giving them 2 points on a safety at the end of the game simply because Bryant feels sorry for Woody Hayes. A&M, unbeaten on the year, douses Switzer, 11-10, setting up a "Bear Bryant Coached Here" National Title game that Alabama wins. Their wins in 74 and 75 make them the second team to three-peat after the Tide of 1964-66.

1977 1 Texas vs 4 Michigan, 2 Oklahoma vs 3 Alabama

Michigan and Texas play to a boring 3-2 win by the Wolverines. Alabama slices Oklahoma open again, 24-7, and drills Michigan in the first-ever meeting between the two powers. It's Alabama's 4th title in five years, an unheard of accomplishment.

1978 1 Penn State vs 4 Oklahoma, 2 Alabama vs 3 USC

Joe Pa continues on his way to his first national title, beating the Sooners, 19-16. Alabama avenges their only loss of the season by trouncing USC, 24-14. In the Sugar Bowl, Penn State scores on a fourth and goal to tie the game at 14, but QB Jeff Rutledge hits Bruce Bolton down the sidelines with a minute left and the Tide wins, 21-14. (See, I can rewrite what really happened like that dolt). It's the Tide's fifth national championship in six years.

1979 1 Alabama vs 4 Florida State, 2 Ohio State vs 3 USC

What's that you say? You think I forgot that Ohio State undeservedly took over the #1 spot from Alabama in November of 1979? No, I didn't. But given that Alabama has just won five of the previous six national titles, do you REALLY think that would have happened under that scenario? Of course not.

As it is, USC beats Ohio State and Alabama kills FSU. In their fourth match-up in three years, the Tide wins again, 21-18. This is their sixth national title in seven years and Steadman Shealy and Major Ogilvie tie as co-winners of the Heisman Trophy.

1981 1 Clemson vs 4 Nebraska, 2 Georgia vs 3 Alabama

Clemson beats Nebraska, 22-15, led by Refrigerator Perry, who memorably said when Clemson was hit with a two-year TV ban: "The worst thing about it is we can't watch TV for two years." (Yes folks, he really said that). Alabama beats Georgia, 17-10, as their entire Walker title runs were built primarily upon beating nobodies (they never played Alabama during his entire run there). Bear beats former Tide man Danny Ford, resulting in the Tide's seventh title in eight years and affecting the future of college football by having to rename the disease something other than Ole Miss-Clemson Syndrome. A very young John Saunders hosting a Canadian program says that Alabama's seven titles are "really" only six because they lost to Notre Dame in 1973.

So fine.

Dodd can take our two titles, and we'll take the seven.
 

CraigD

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McCoy would have a huge difference? Like he did up until he got knocked out of the game? Little man did jack squat before Dareus busted his wing. Wegift wrapped opportunities that McCoy failed to cash in on. When Gilbert came in, he was at least able to move the ball a little and score. If McCoy stays in that game it's probably even a bigger blowout because I don't see him moving them much against our defense.
Look, I am not agreeing with Mr. Dodd, but get the facts straight in your rebuttal. McCoy played 5 plays in that game. And Texas was moving the ball:

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/07/live-analysis-texas-vs-alabama/
McCoy found Shipley for five yards on first down (no mention of the roommate connection; no time) and Malcolm Williams for four yards on second down, after which U.T. called on its bruiser, Cody Johnson, to convert on third and one. Tre Newton, the speedster, got outside the Alabama defense for 16 yards down to the Alabama 11, but a McCoy keeper on the following play left the quarterback with a shoulder injury. He’s on the bench receiving treatment, leaving the Longhrosn to call on the true freshman quarterback Garrett Gilbert
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=300070333
1st and 10 at ALA 37
Colt McCoy pass complete to Jordan Shipley for 5 yards to the Alab 32.
2nd and 5 at ALA 32
Colt McCoy pass complete to Malcolm Williams for 4 yards to the Alab 28.
3rd and 1 at ALA 28
Cody Johnson rush for 1 yard to the Alab 27 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at ALA 27
Tre' Newton rush for 16 yards to the Alab 11 out-of-bounds for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at ALA 11
Colt McCoy rush for no gain to the Alab 11.
2nd and 10 at ALA 11
Timeout TEXAS, clock 10:54.
 
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Nolan

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I can't believe everyone is wasting key strokes on Dennis Dodd.
Yes, I agree, but its hard not too. Gotta call a spade a spade. The guy is really out there, almost science-fictiony...

And this is a message board where we write and talk about stuff...not all of it is pulitzer prize subject matter but it keeps most of us content and coming back :)
 

TiderB

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Look, I am not agreeing with Mr. Dodd, but get the facts straight in your rebuttal. McCoy played 5 plays in that game. And Texas was moving the ball:
Prior to getting knocked out of the game, Colt was 2-2 for 9 yards, with one rush for 0 yards. Not exactly strong evidence for how he would have fared had he not got injured.
 

selmaborntidefan

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Prior to getting knocked out of the game, Colt was 2-2 for 9 yards, with one rush for 0 yards. Not exactly strong evidence for how he would have fared had he not got injured.
That's true, but Craig was responding primarily to the language used by Brad, which suggested Colt must have played about half the game. The statement "we gift wrapped opportunities" to McCoy suggests a bunch of stuff, and Colt was only in for five plays IIRC.
 

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Dennis Dud at it again.....

Jolt McJoy......savior for the Long Horns.....Oh I forgot, he took himself out of the game because he could not feel his arm anymore after being nudged by Dareus......Geez. He was looking for an excuse for his soon to be loss....felt sorry for his coach Slack Brown, and knew the most over rated coach in the game would need an excuse.....

These Azz clowns just cant realize dominating Defensive football wins Championships..........

Okie state would have never scored 28 points.......on Bama or LSU regardless of what this azz clown thinks.

Okie State's Defense would have been run up and down the field by both LSU's and Bama's power ....
 

mikes12

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These aren't retro-active plus-ones.

They are hypothetical retroactive minus-one-plus-twos. And I thought fantasy football was something else entirely.
 

selmaborntidefan

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These aren't retro-active plus-ones.

They are hypothetical retroactive minus-one-plus-twos. And I thought fantasy football was something else entirely.

Yes, and he played all the games with his son and that little paper triangle on a desk corner, too.