Rivals Top 100 Players
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While I agree that he is amazing and explosive, I can understand being #80. I mean he return only a handful of punts a game, and lately most have been going out of bounds. As a corner, he is a good asset, but nowhere near one of the best corners. He is very valuable to our team, but I would say it would be hard to justify him being better than players who get alot of carries or receptions, etc. He just doesnt get that many chances to do anything, but when he does get the chance, he usually makes it count. I guess what im saying is while he is more valuable than #80, I couldnt justify him being alot higher
That little nugget lost all credibility. Uh, Jimmy Clausen? Seriously?
Doesn't include the most talented or best players? WTH.Someone must have been really bored & threw that together. The LSU player & the Texas WR Shipley deserved to be on the list tho.
Doesn't include the most talented or best players? WTH.Someone must have been really bored & threw that together. The LSU player & the Texas WR Shipley deserved to be on the list tho.
Anyone know the story of Shula getting Arenas out of Tampa? I'd love to hear it.
He seems to be one of the few "project" guys that actually became a big time playmaker.
Just curious.
He seems to be one of the few "project" guys that actually became a big time playmaker.
Just curious.
Not to speak anything of the credibility of the rest of the list, but Arenas at #80 sounds about right.
Arenas is a good player on a good team, plain and simple. He is a solid corner in pass coverage, good enough to start on one of the nation's best defenses, and is one of the best run-support corners you will find. Furthermore, he is probably the most explosive returner in the country. On the other hand, he's not an elite corner, and his dumb decision-making can at times really limit his explosiveness in the return game.
#80 sounds about right to me.
Arenas is a good player on a good team, plain and simple. He is a solid corner in pass coverage, good enough to start on one of the nation's best defenses, and is one of the best run-support corners you will find. Furthermore, he is probably the most explosive returner in the country. On the other hand, he's not an elite corner, and his dumb decision-making can at times really limit his explosiveness in the return game.
#80 sounds about right to me.
I have no clue, really, and I'm not sure anyone else does.
He was a complete unknown, and was committed to Florida Atlantic a couple of weeks before NSD 2006. He did pretty well in high school, and had no academic issues, so I don't know why he was unknown, but he was. I suppose teams thought he was a great returner, but didn't think he could play another position, and thus they weren't willing to give him a scholarship.
At any rate, we offered him in late January, and he immediately committed. He took an official visit to Alabama that weekend, and signed with Alabama the following week. The rest is history.
Truth be told, I think us signing him was largely accidental. We missed on a couple of other guys at the end, and that opened up some space, so we decided to spend a scholarship on a return guy. We were always planning on giving him a shot at a regular position, but I don't think anyone really thought anything major would come of it. I certainly do not think anyone ever expected him becoming a two-year starter at corner on one of the top defenses in the country, that much is sure.
Finally, if I remember correctly, I believe it was actually Dave Ungerer, then the special teams coach, that found him. Not trying to knock Shula, but I think Ungerer was the engineer behind this one.
Yeah, I would agree with that. I was actually referring to some of the other players they had on the list, and questioning what makes those players "TOP 100" players, ie. Clausen. What accomplishments does he have to make that list? Not trying to single just him out, just making a point.
I think you are right as a whole, I think a lot of players out of line. However, I'll take up for Clausen here.
Yes he did struggle a lot as a true freshman starting on a horrendous team (who wouldn't?), but he improved a lot last year and played pretty well. I know the competition was relatively weak, but he still completed 60% of his passes, threw for over 3,000 yards, averaged over seven yards per attempt, and threw more touchdowns than picks. Again, I know that's not coming against great competition, but was coming behind a terrible offensive line and a non-existent running game, so that is pretty impressive.
He will never be the multi-Heisman winner like some predicted when he arrived, but he's going to be very good. If he continues the rate of progress he had from 2007 to 2008, this may very well be his last year at Notre Dame. He has the physical tools of a top NFL draft pick.
Being # 80 is really outstanding. There are 120 Div. 1 (FBS) teams and each team has roughly 85 scholarshiped players. That is a total of 10,200 players. Being # 80 is very high compliment.
Is he actually getting better or are they just softening their schedule to make it look that way?
Agreed. If we knew a kid coming out of HS would be the 80th best player in the country when he was a senior in college, CNS would have the full court press on trying to land him.
True enough. That puts you easily within the top 1% of all college football players... hard to complain too much about that.
Admittedly the level of competition generally isn't very good, but it wasn't any worse than it was during his freshman campaign.
Where would you rate Julio? I bet he's on the list...later...as in a lower number...as in better. I think 80 is high praise for Arenas. Yes, I get a lump in my throat anytime we have to punt against you guys...but that's his best attribute...punt returner. I think Trindon Holliday is more of a threat as a kick returner, but I have no delusions about thinking he should be on the list at all. His second best attribute is as a decoy...and he is rarely used in that capacity.
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Agree on Clausen...he shouldn't smell this list. I agree he improved, and he may have a whole garage full of tools...but he has done nothing to be rated on a list such as this.
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Agree on Clausen...he shouldn't smell this list. I agree he improved, and he may have a whole garage full of tools...but he has done nothing to be rated on a list such as this.
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