Total war on civilians. What's the point of taking a city that's totally destroyed? As pointless as it is evil.
Russia Invades Ukraine pt XII
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President's Office: Ukraine may receive security guarantees at next NATO summit
"There will definitely be security guarantees, we no longer hear "no" when we speak up about them. Now the question is who will be the first to sign them with us," Ukraine's Presidential Office head Andrii Yermak told reporters, as cited by the European Pravda.
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This was on the front inside cover of The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. My dad had a copy when I was growing up.
The photo over the inscription was of Berlin in 1945, bombed out shells of buildings and piles of rubble.
"If you seek his monument, look around you."
In related news, I might be elected Pope.President's Office: Ukraine may receive security guarantees at next NATO summit
"There will definitely be security guarantees, we no longer hear "no" when we speak up about them. Now the question is who will be the first to sign them with us," Ukraine's Presidential Office head Andrii Yermak told reporters, as cited by the European Pravda.
Yeah, definitely comes across like wishful thinking. Or hoping public pressure will make a difference.
I do not know Scherr, but he is well-respected.
I do not know Gretskiy, but his highlight reel from his days with the Edmundton Oilers was excellent.
Sad to say, but the U.S. has already promised to help protect Ukrianian territorial integrity, in exchange for Ukraine giving up the nukes based in Ukraine.
Had the Ukrainians not trusted us and had they taken over the Soviet nukes based in Ukraine, they would not be in the situation they are in today. On the other hand, there might have been a nuclear exchange between Russia and Ukraine.
If you’re talking about the Budapest Agreement, it doesn’t really say that, though Russia has violated it.
Ukraine Memorandum on Security Assurances - Wikisource, the free online library
I’ve always thought the phrase “the only good Russian is dead Russian” was over the top, but I’m warming to it
True, but when the US and UK agreed that "The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and The United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine," the Ukrainians thought the US and UK were committed to the territorial integrity of Ukraine.If you’re talking about the Budapest Agreement, it doesn’t really say that, though Russia has violated it.
Ukraine Memorandum on Security Assurances - Wikisource, the free online library
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I am fairly certain that, had the Ukrainians seized and retained the Soviet nuclear weapons based in Ukrainian territory, (against the recommendations of the Clinton Administation) no Russian invasion would have happened in 2014 or 2022.
Ukrainian officials explain their defense of Bakhmut by saying Russia is using massive resources and keeping them occupied all while being degraded, hopefully to the point Ukraine is successful with their counteroffensive.
Not a bad strategy- danger is in Ukraine’s military also being degraded. May be why Putin is increasing missile attacks.
Such a disgrace to humanity.
Not a bad strategy- danger is in Ukraine’s military also being degraded. May be why Putin is increasing missile attacks.
Such a disgrace to humanity.
A long but very informative article by Stefan Korshak. I just noticed for the first time that he's the senior defense correspondent at the Kyiv Post. No wonder he has so much inside info...
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In the summer of 1941, the Germans had seized a bridgehead over the upper reaches of the Dniepr at a place called Yelnya Bend. Stalin badly want that bridgehead reduced, so he threw tons of Red Army units at the bridgehead. The Germans badly wanted to keep the bridgehead so they fed lots on men and ammo into the defense. It just became a contest of wills between Stalin and Hitler. Eventually, the Germans blinked and evacuated the bridgehead. It seems they were grinding down good units to nothing trying to hold an almost worthless bridgehead. But the Red Army ground down a bunch of units trying to reduce the bridgehead as well, units they would need when the Germans launched phase II of their summer offensive.
Bakhmut feels a little like that.
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Agreed.
Acknowledging that both the Russians and the Ukrainians fudge (or falsify, depending on your allegiance) the casualty numbers, I think it’s clear the Ukrainians are winning that battle.
Thing is, the Russians significantly outnumber them. So the Ukrainians need to win it by a lot.
Whether they’re winning by enough, I don’t know. I’m not sure anybody does.…maybe not even the combatants.
I do know that Putin doesn’t mind throwing bodies at the problem — it’s one way to empty the prisons.
There’s a three-way dynamic between (1) Putin, (2) the Ukrainians, and (3) the Russian public’s ongoing tolerance for body bags, that will be fascinating to watch play out.
As for #3, I am not sure how much the Russian public knows. It is illegal, for example to take a photo of a cemetery near a Russian army base.
Russians get their news from the television and all the networks are owned by the Russian government or by friends of Putin.
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I keep reading that many "experts" think that's exactly what the Ukrainians are doing...
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