Russia Invades Ukraine XIX

Good news - Ukraine’s attacks on Russian refineries are taking a toll…



I've decided to translate for you a post from the Russian Telegram channel "Nezygar" about the current state of Russian refineries and fuel market:

"Tensions in Russia's fuel market are rising: in Primorye, there are kilometer-long queues at gas stations, and wholesale prices for gasoline and diesel have hit record highs. Officially, the reasons are no longer hidden - refineries are shutting down after Ukrainian strikes. During peak summer days, up to 14% of processing capacity was idle.

In 2025, the tactics of Ukrainian strikes have changed. Previously, they were one-time: a unit would be damaged, the plant would reduce output, but recover within a few weeks. Now, attacks are carried out in series and repeated on the same facilities - Ryazan, Novokuibyshevsk, Syzran, Volgograd, Afipsky refineries. This prevents the restoration of primary processing and hydrocracking and catalytic cracking units. For example, after a series of attacks, Ryazan Refinery (5% of Russia's capacity) has half its processing halted, while Novokuibyshevsk Refinery (3%) has its primary processing damaged. The largest refinery in southern Russia, Volgograd's Lukoil, as well as the Samara and Syzran refineries, have stopped receiving crude.

Ukraine is widely using drones with a range of 1,000-1,500 km (such as the AQ-400 produced by FirePoint), capable of reaching the Volga region. Simultaneously, drones and maritime drones are targeting export terminals - attacks on Ust-Luga and Novorossiysk have temporarily halted oil product shipments. 'Madyar' reported hitting the Druzhba pipeline, which supplies oil from Russia to its historical homeland.

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The choice of refineries as targets is explained by their technological vulnerability. Modern Russian refineries were built using equipment from Shell, Axens, UOP, and Haldor Topsoe - hydrocracking, catalytic reforming, isomerization, and Euro-5 component production. After 2022, deliveries of equipment, software, and catalysts ceased. Catalysts are consumables, replaced every 1-3 years; without Western supplies, Russia relies on old stock or Chinese analogs with inferior performance. Hydroprocessing reactors and compressors are manufactured in only a few countries, with delivery times up to a year.

China can cover only part of the deficit: pumps, heat exchangers, and simple catalysts. However, for complex processes, its technology lags, and replacing Western components with Chinese ones requires restructuring the entire refinery unit. As a result, every Ukrainian strike on a hydrocracking or reforming unit leads to months of downtime.

The map of Russian refineries reveals a key strategic problem: the main processing capacities are concentrated in the European part of the country, while fuel consumption is rising in the Far East. Fuel logistics chains to eastern regions span thousands of kilometers, creating additional costs and risks. Kilometer-long queues in Primorye are a direct consequence of this imbalance between western production and eastern consumption. Large refineries - from Kirishi to Volgograd - are within reach of Ukrainian drones. The Flamingo missile, if its specifications are confirmed, can reach Russia's largest refinery in Omsk.

As the range increases, facilities previously considered out of reach are now threatened, creating a scale problem for air defense - protecting all refineries across the territory, from Kaliningrad to the Far East, is practically impossible.

Consequently, Russia's oil and gas industry, once a source of economic strength, has become a vulnerable spot."
 
Okay, question...

Is there any military value for Ukraine to hit Transinitra and Kaliningrad? I mean what happens if these 2 satellites become destabilized where Moldova takes it back or Germany squeezes the life out Kaliningrad?
 
Okay, question...

Is there any military value for Ukraine to hit Transinitra and Kaliningrad? I mean what happens if these 2 satellites become destabilized where Moldova takes it back or Germany squeezes the life out Kaliningrad?
Kaliningrad, I am not sure I see the value, plus how would you get there if you are Ukraine? You would have to overfly Poland. Do that without permission and you risk ticking off the Poles and choking off the flow of arms to Ukraine. Do it with permission and Poland might now be at war with Russia.

Transnistria is another matter. Right next door, very weak (but stronger than Moldova). If it were me, I'd seize it, give the land back to Moldova, capture the "Russian" soldiers stationed there (most of the enlisted men are indigenous to Transnistria), seize the ammo stored there and use it to shoot Russians in eastern Ukraine. It would take some of the wind out of the sails of the "don't invade your neighbors" plank of the Ukrainian position.
Who knows? That region is so Byzantine, maybe Ukraine is already buying the ammo from the Russian depot in Transnistria and does not need to screw that up.
 

JD Vance on Russia-Ukraine: "What I admire about the president is he's not trying to focus on every nitpicky detail of how this thing started three and a half years ago, he's trying to focus on the nitpicky details of now."
Unfortunately, whenever he speaks about this, all Trump speaks of is "This never would have happened if I had been president."
I do not know what Ukraine might have done to avoid being victimized by Russia, except not live next to Russia. The gall!
 

JD Vance on Russia-Ukraine: "What I admire about the president is he's not trying to focus on every nitpicky detail of how this thing started three and a half years ago, he's trying to focus on the nitpicky details of now."
If FDR had taken this track in WWII then France (and England?) could well be speaking German. This is not a morally neutral situation.
 
Unfortunately, whenever he speaks about this, all Trump speaks of is "This never would have happened if I had been president."
I do not know what Ukraine might have done to avoid being victimized by Russia, except not live next to Russia. The gall!
Well, the timing is interesting. I'm not going to give Trump credit, but rather point out that Putin knew that neither Obama nor Biden would stop him.
 
Well, the timing is interesting. I'm not going to give Trump credit, but rather point out that Putin knew that neither Obama nor Biden would stop him.
I do not think that President Biden giving Putin permission to invade Ukraine (as long as he considered it a "minor border incursion") was a good deterrent.
 
Well, the timing is interesting. I'm not going to give Trump credit, but rather point out that Putin knew that neither Obama nor Biden would stop him.

Well here is thing… Trump is president now for over 200 days and the situation is still the same except the United States looks like a bunch of donkeys as an international power with our handling of Ukraine and our crazy tariffs.

Trump can blame Biden and Obama for everything between Jan 20,2008- January 20th, 2017 and between January 20th,2021 and January 20th, 2025 but at this point Trump is in charge.
 
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Well here is thing… Trump is president now for over 200 days and the situation is still the same except the United States looks like a bunch of donkeys as an international power with our handling of Ukraine and our crazy tariffs.

Trump can blame Biden and Obama for everything between Jan 20,2008- January 20th, 2017 and between January 20th,2021 and January 20th, 2025 but at this point Trump is in charge.
Of course, I'm simply pointing out that when he says it wouldn't have happened under his presidency, he may well be right. Putin knew Obama and Biden weren't going to stop him.
 
Of course, I'm simply pointing out that when he says it wouldn't have happened under his presidency, he may well be right. Putin knew Obama and Biden weren't going to stop him.

But it’s like saying “if Teddy was in charge instead of Wilson then WWI wouldn’t have been as big of a conflict”. It may be true but we wouldn’t ever know.

As for Putin… invading neighbors is his MO. He invaded Georgia under Bush and started several wars with Chechnya under Bush. You can’t tell me Bush wasn’t someone that was weak on aggressive actors. Putin probably saw 2016-2020 as an opportunity to get sanctions lifted so he could finish it at a later date. Look like a good boy and suggest he only invaded because of Russian national defense. Then blame Obama for being a war monger. It didn’t work even with his useful idiot occupying the WH.

Whether or not Putin would’ve invaded Ukraine with Trump in office really isn’t a relevant question right now. “Why is he still invading Ukraine with Trump in office” is the relevant question right now. Because Trump clearly isn’t stopping him from doing it. Trump has dug himself a hole with his “Peace in Gaza and Ukraine in the 1st 100 days” and his “release the Epstein files” promises.
 
As for Putin… invading neighbors is his MO. He invaded Georgia under Bush and started several wars with Chechnya under Bush.
Chechnya is an integral part of the Russian Federation. Georgia is a separate country.
You can’t tell me Bush wasn’t someone that was weak on aggressive actors.
I think Bush (or more importantly, the US military) was a bit distracted in 2008.
Putin probably saw 2016-2020 as an opportunity to get sanctions lifted so he could finish it at a later date. Look like a good boy and suggest he only invaded because of Russian national defense. Then blame Obama for being a war monger. It didn’t work even with his useful idiot occupying the WH.
Rather the opposite. When Russia invaded the first time in 2014, Obama sent radios and medical supplies to Ukraine. The first US president to send lethal aid (Javelin antitank missiles) was Trump.
Whether or not Putin would’ve invaded Ukraine with Trump in office really isn’t a relevant question right now. “Why is he still invading Ukraine with Trump in office” is the relevant question right now. Because Trump clearly isn’t stopping him from doing it.
True, once the bullets start flying and the credibility of the country is at stake, the situation has fundamentally changed. The US found this out in Vietnam.
Trump has dug himself a hole with his “Peace in Gaza and Ukraine in the 1st 100 days” and his “release the Epstein files” promises.
I think Trump promised to end the war in 24 hours. "While I hate to judge before all the facts are in," as General Jack D. Ripper said in the film Dr. Strangelove, Trump did not exactly achieve that one (unless he invents a time machine).
 
Chechnya is an integral part of the Russian Federation. Georgia is a separate country.

I think Bush (or more importantly, the US military) was a bit distracted in 2008.

Rather the opposite. When Russia invaded the first time in 2014, Obama sent radios and medical supplies to Ukraine. The first US president to send lethal aid (Javelin antitank missiles) was Trump.

True, once the bullets start flying and the credibility of the country is at stake, the situation has fundamentally changed. The US found this out in Vietnam.

I think Trump promised to end the war in 24 hours. "While I hate to judge before all the facts are in," as General Jack D. Ripper said in the film Dr. Strangelove, Trump did not exactly achieve that one (unless he invents a time machine).

My point with 2016-2020 is how Putin probably saw… not how it played out. I see Putin as more of a one dimensional thinker like Stalin and less of a person with imagination like Khrushchev or Gorbachev.
 
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My point with 2016-2020 is how Putin probably saw… not how it played out. I see Putin as more of a one dimensional thinker like Stalin and less of a person with imagination like Khrushchev or Gorbachev.
Last night we watched an interesting psychological review of what made Putin the person (monster) he is as an adult.

It is here for anyone interested. We follow this UK based Psychiatrist and find his commentary on Trump and global affairs interesting.

 
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