A lot of that is congressional authorizations, and established pipelines.
With Israel, we have lots of both.
With Ukraine, there are statutory hurdles to overcome before the kit can even start making its way to Kyiv.
Russia invades Ukraine XV
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With Israel, we have lots of both.
With Ukraine, there are statutory hurdles to overcome before the kit can even start making its way to Kyiv.
Good, now start pointing them at military targets within russia.
Ukraine uses US-supplied ATACMS for the first time, says Zelensky
The ATACMS weapons were reportedly used in air strikes that destroyed Russian helicopters.www.bbc.com
This is interesting and terrifying.
Ukrainian partisans in occupied Melitopol blew up a car with Russian occupiers, who regularly robbed empty apartments in the city, Melitopol's exiled Mayor Ivan Fedorov said on Oct. 20.
A unit of the Ukrainian Special Operations Forces' "Resistance Movement" sabotaged a train in Russian-occupied Melitopol that was carrying ammunition and fuel for the Russian military, the Special Operations Forces reported on Oct. 13.
So far so good.
Then I read this.
Mariupol had a pre-invasion population of over 400,000 people and roughly 120,000 residents remained in the occupied city as of May 2023.[26] The Russian siege of Mariupol during the first phases of the Russian full-scale invasion killed up to 25,000 Ukrainian civilians and displaced hundreds of thousands from the city.[27] Russian officials reportedly deported an additional 50,000 residents from the city to Russia and other occupied territories in the months following its capture. [Further,] "Russian occupation development document stipulates a 300,000 increase in Mariupol’s overall population by 2035 through migration from Russia."
I shudder to think what will happen to those Russians once the Ukrainians get Mariupol back. The Ukrainian government may not deliberately kill them, but they will have a hard time preventing the Ukrainians from doing so.
Ukrainian partisans in occupied Melitopol blew up a car with Russian occupiers, who regularly robbed empty apartments in the city, Melitopol's exiled Mayor Ivan Fedorov said on Oct. 20.
A unit of the Ukrainian Special Operations Forces' "Resistance Movement" sabotaged a train in Russian-occupied Melitopol that was carrying ammunition and fuel for the Russian military, the Special Operations Forces reported on Oct. 13.
So far so good.
Then I read this.
Mariupol had a pre-invasion population of over 400,000 people and roughly 120,000 residents remained in the occupied city as of May 2023.[26] The Russian siege of Mariupol during the first phases of the Russian full-scale invasion killed up to 25,000 Ukrainian civilians and displaced hundreds of thousands from the city.[27] Russian officials reportedly deported an additional 50,000 residents from the city to Russia and other occupied territories in the months following its capture. [Further,] "Russian occupation development document stipulates a 300,000 increase in Mariupol’s overall population by 2035 through migration from Russia."
I shudder to think what will happen to those Russians once the Ukrainians get Mariupol back. The Ukrainian government may not deliberately kill them, but they will have a hard time preventing the Ukrainians from doing so.
I fear the expulsion of the Russians from Novorossiya could rival in its ugliness the expulsions of the Germans from the Sudetenland in 1945.
Something like 270,000 Germans died in the mass expulsions from Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, Kaliningrad.
On a related note, I found this amazing video of Germans moving out of Czechoslovakia probably in June 1945.
The US withdrew from Czechoslovakia (part of the the Soviet occupation Zone) in June 1945 and established the frontier by 1 July.
The US soldiers are awfully chummy with an SS officer.
The Germans in vehicles drove by a one-legged Luftwaffe officer walking on crutches without offering him a ride.
Finally, one young lady got the crap beaten out of her, maybe because she had been too chummy with the Germans?
Accompanying tune is Dia de los Muertos by Antoine Marsaud.
Anyway, scenes like this (and much worse) will be seen in eastern Ukraine when the Ukrainians get the land back. It will be ugly.
Something like 270,000 Germans died in the mass expulsions from Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, Kaliningrad.
On a related note, I found this amazing video of Germans moving out of Czechoslovakia probably in June 1945.
The US soldiers are awfully chummy with an SS officer.
The Germans in vehicles drove by a one-legged Luftwaffe officer walking on crutches without offering him a ride.
Finally, one young lady got the crap beaten out of her, maybe because she had been too chummy with the Germans?
Accompanying tune is Dia de los Muertos by Antoine Marsaud.
Anyway, scenes like this (and much worse) will be seen in eastern Ukraine when the Ukrainians get the land back. It will be ugly.
Turkey's president submits protocol for Sweden's admission into NATO to parliament for ratification
The office of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says he has submitted a protocol for Sweden’s admission into NATO to Turkey’s parliament for ratification.
apnews.com
Honestly, I do not see the Russian strategy at this point. What strategic objective are they pursuing? What concepts are they employing? I see the resources, but are they adequate to the ends and ways?
If they are willing to accept the terrain they currently occupy, then it is time for a "charm offensive," a diplomatic effort to peel off western and global governments to pressure Ukraine to agree to negotiate a settlement. I do not see that however. What I see is, "Oh, well, we just have to continue to feed men and materiel into the meat grinder ..."
IDK, but it's worked for them before, when they had the manpower. It's a demographic disaster. Putin either doesn't understand that or he just doesn't care, if it helps maintain him in power...
I saw a report that the Russian population is projected to drop by 700,000/year over the next few years.
Of course, 70,000 dead young men will not help that.
This is a disaster for Russia.
I think Putin actually does have a strategy….it’s to outlast the Ukrainians and/or the willingness of other countries to supply the Ukrainians.
Russia’s demographic disaster is well-documented. But Ukraine’s isn’t that much better, and they’re starting out with far fewer people than the Russians.
Initially, Putin thought he would just steamroll Ukraine. That didn’t happen, and we’re now almost 2 years into a stalemated war. Now, his strategy is just to outlast either (1) Ukraine’s population of 18 - 34 year old men or (2) the west’s willingness to continue pouring money into a stalemate.
If it costs him a chunk of his own 18-34 year old male population, they’re mostly of ethnicities other than Russian, and he’d view that as just fewer mouths to feed. Plus, in his mind most of the Army isn’t really Russian, so who cares?
I’ll promise you, he views the new Speaker of the House as a win, and a step toward achieving #2 above.
It's relatively cheap money to spend now as opposed to a hot war, but government funds are ultimately finite, despite how we often treat them.
I do not believe Putin thinks he is going to get all of Ukraine. The means are just not there. They could not hold it if they got it.
The Russians, it appears to me, might be able to hang onto Novorossiya, the Donbas, and Crimea, especially with another year to dig in and emplace more minefields.
If that is the case, now is the time for a charm offensive. Convince Europeans leaders that the war is now senseless, we should put an end to it. Ceasefire, blah, blah, blah.
The Russians, it appears to me, might be able to hang onto Novorossiya, the Donbas, and Crimea, especially with another year to dig in and emplace more minefields.
If that is the case, now is the time for a charm offensive. Convince Europeans leaders that the war is now senseless, we should put an end to it. Ceasefire, blah, blah, blah.
I agree...the only question is what will he do in 5-10 years? Invade again? Will he even be alive much less in power?
He will not need to. He will have emasculated Ukraine by taking their industrial areas and ports on the Sea of Azov. What will be left will be Odessa and a small section of Black Sea coast and Ukraine will be reduced to a farming nation with 10 million internally-displace people.
Here is some encouraging news.
Putin had selected a Quisling to head his puppet regime in Kyiv, Oleg Tsaryov.
Tsaryov was shot twice in Crimea. Unfortunately, he lived.
Putin had selected a Quisling to head his puppet regime in Kyiv, Oleg Tsaryov.
Tsaryov was shot twice in Crimea. Unfortunately, he lived.
So, I keep seeing these ISW maps showing the area controlled by Russia since 2014. Given the losses they are sustaining on the battlefield, I am really wanting to know how well thus area is fortified with men and equipment. What sort of defenses are surrounding Donetsk and Mauripol?
I saw a headline of an article that said Ukraine moves forward 10 meters a day in Andiivka. That's 30 yards... Apparently, I am just not understanding the Ukrainian approach to this war. I don't think the NATO suppliers can sustain (or want) ammo supply for advances measured in yards per day. It's like WWI tactics. It appears to me Ukraine is gutting the Russian military on the battlefield but have become distracted from the true mission which is to recover their territory.
Please help me understand.
I saw a headline of an article that said Ukraine moves forward 10 meters a day in Andiivka. That's 30 yards... Apparently, I am just not understanding the Ukrainian approach to this war. I don't think the NATO suppliers can sustain (or want) ammo supply for advances measured in yards per day. It's like WWI tactics. It appears to me Ukraine is gutting the Russian military on the battlefield but have become distracted from the true mission which is to recover their territory.
Please help me understand.
A few points.
1. 10 meters is 11 yards.
2. Breaching a defensive position is a battle drill for a US Army mech/tank brigade. The brigade commander designates the spot he wants to breach, then, like the conductor of an orchestra, he "conducts" the brigade, synchronizing the three maneuver battalions, artillery support, USAF Close Air Support, engineers, logistics, and now drones, etc. etc. The mech/tank units of the Army practice this in live fires at the National Training Center in Fort Irwin, Calif. all the time, with live ammo. They do it so often it is like an audible play in the NFL.
The Ukrainians underfunded their military for decades after independence. The governments had other priorities. Conducting a breach of a defensive position the American way is simply beyond the abilities of the Ukrainian Army. They cannot orchestrate activities above company level (~100 soldiers).Thus, they are reduced to "nibbling" at the Russian defenses. The Red Army in WW II used to pick a spot, pound it with tens of thousands of rounds of artillery, then throw a Tank Army at a defending Germany battalion. No matter how good that battalion was, eventually, they would get swamped. The lead Soviet regiment or even division might get its teeth kicked in before swamping the Germans (e.g. Seelow Heights, April 1945), but the second division would drive through the gap unscathed. And the Third division, and the fourth, etc. etc. Then they would drive deep and hard. Another Soviet Tank Army would do the same thing a few hundred kilometers north or south along the front and the two penetrations would meet up somewhere behind German lines. Because Hitler was a moron, he would order the German units inside the pocket to stand fast, nobody would escape and every German soldier inside the pocket would be killed or captured. The Ukrainians do not have enough tank armies to repeat this Soviet tactic either. So they are left with "nibbling," hoping that they are attriting the Russians at a rate greater than the population disparity between the two countries.
3. There are some already-identified defensive positions in the Russian rear (Myrske, Kuznetsivka, Rozivka). Wait until next spring when the campaigning weather returns and there will be a lot more. A lot more.
4. The Russian rear is not denuded of forces. It is secured by the FSB and RosGvardiya, the Russian Guard. RosGvardiya is like well-armed riot police. They have AK-74s, light machine guns, and some APCs. Enough to make Ukrainian insurgents be wary.
Sadly, this summer was Ukraine's best chance to win the war. Now, I fear they are looking at a frozen conflict lasting decades.
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