SCOTUS and Roe

[Tug Tide]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521288348010229764

Exclusive: Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows

“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft circulated inside the court.

www.politico.com

Initial draft circulating:

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000180-874f-dd36-a38c-c74f98520000

 

[NationalTitles18]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521288348010229764

Exclusive: Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows

“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft circulated inside the court.

www.politico.com

Initial draft circulating:

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000180-874f-dd36-a38c-c74f98520000

That draft would be egregious.

 

[Crimson1967]

If only RBG had retired in 2013 when the Democrats had a 55-45 majority.

 

[JDCrimson]

How many more Democrats would be considered favorably in elections if they didn't have to carry the question of abortion on their back. There are many Democrat campaigns dead out of the gate on this singular issue.

If abortion is ultimately restricted by Republicans, they now publicly own the failures and the horrific and inhumane circumstances that originate out of this decision. If played correctly, this will be a huge strategic win for the Democrats.

The Republicans will find out embarrassingly how low the percentage of abortions are that originate from promiscuous behavior.

Then, the Democrats ought go for their holy grail, nationalizing election procedures for federal offices.

 

[92tide]

If only RBG had retired in 2013 when the Democrats had a 55-45 majority.

if only a bunch of people would've gotten over themselves and voted for hillary

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

This is terrible

 

[PaulD]

How many more Democrats would be considered favorably in elections if they didn't have to carry the question of abortion on their back. There are many Democrat campaigns dead out of the gate on this singular issue.

I think it depends on the part of the country. Polls show must Americans don't support overturning Roe v. Wade.

It certainly isn't a killer for them in states like California, Illinois, and New York.

 

[crimsonaudio]

If legit, a leak like this is unprecedented from what I can tell. An investigation and prosecution should be expected.

This is an obvious leak to alter the apparent outcome.

 

[JDCrimson]

But with this issue off the table, does it bring more red states into play? I believe with right message it could.

I think it depends on the part of the country. Polls show must Americans don't support overturning Roe v. Wade.

It certainly isn't a killer for them in states like California, Illinois, and New York.

 

[Crimson1967]

I doubt it will matter in the midterms.

Even if it did, it would take a long time before Roe could be restored. Thomas is 73 and Alito is 72. Neither is leaving the court as long as they are alive. Roberts is 67.

 

[NationalTitles18]

If legit, a leak like this is unprecedented from what I can tell. An investigation and prosecution should be expected.

This is an obvious leak to alter the apparent outcome.

What law was broken?

 

[JDCrimson]

The Republican side of this SC has never been much of a respector of the Judicial Canon of Ethics where it is unethical to speak on matter that are or may come before the court.

They are activist judges ready and willing to go speak at forums, etc. on matters in front them.

If legit, a leak like this is unprecedented from what I can tell. An investigation and prosecution should be expected.

This is an obvious leak to alter the apparent outcome.

 

[crimsonaudio]

What law was broken?

Considering this has never happened before, and with the obvious ramifications, I'm betting there's something there. The sanctity of the internal court comms is valuable.

Otherwise, why have we never seen this before?

ETA - I've not researched it (and won't) but if no laws were broken, so be it. I've no idea. I know that jury tampering laws exist for a reason.

 

[92tide]

Alito's draft opinion explicitly criticizes Lawrence v. Texas (legalizing sodomy) and Obergefell v. Hodges (legalizing same-sex marriage). He says that, like abortion, these decisions protect phony rights that are not "deeply rooted in history." https://politico.com/f/?id=00000180-874f-dd36-a38c-c74f98520000

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521296185977417732

 

[NationalTitles18]

Considering this has never happened before, and with the obvious ramifications, I'm betting there's something there. The sanctity of the internal court comms is valuable.

Otherwise, why have we never seen this before?

ETA - I've not researched it (and won't) but if no laws were broken, so be it. I've no idea. I know that jury tampering laws exist for a reason.

I don't know of any law that expressly prohibits leaking this type of government document. It's hard enough to prosecute when classified information is leaked. Free speech!

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

If legit, a leak like this is unprecedented from what I can tell. An investigation and prosecution should be expected.

This is an obvious leak to alter the apparent outcome.

I'm much more concerned about Roe being overturned.

 

[92tide]

I'm much more concerned about Roe being overturned.

it's not going to be the last thing.

 

[NationalTitles18]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521296185977417732

Wow. Interracial marriage and birth control could be next, for real. How far back do we need to go to find something "deeply rooted" if 50 years isn't enough?

It's clear that the recognition of rights formerly denied to oppressed people has come to a halt and the rollback has begun.

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

it's not going to be the last thing.

Probably not

 

[92tide]

Wow. Interracial marriage and birth control could be next, for real. How far back do we need to go to find something "deeply rooted" if 50 years isn't enough?

It's clear that the recognition of rights formerly denied to oppressed people has come to a halt and the rollback has begun.

they've been openly pushing this for decades. in the name of christ, of course.