I normally pull for SEC teams with the exception of Auburn and Tennessee. I'm just curious how others feel.
Should we pull for LSU to win NC?
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Depends on who they play, right now I would root for Oregon, Kansas and Oklahoma over LSU. The only teams I could possibly root for LSU to beat would be USC (not gonna happen) and a Ohio State (unlikely).
Looks like I'll be rooting against the Bayou Bengals.
Loudly.
Looks like I'll be rooting against the Bayou Bengals.
Loudly.
Well, there is no question that we need to pull for them to make the BCS championship game. That scenario will help keep more and better bowl options open for the other SEC teams.
There is no way we can make it to Atlanta now, so there is no harm to us in them winning out. I'd rather see LSU win the SEC than UT, or anyone from the east for that matter.
There is no way we can make it to Atlanta now, so there is no harm to us in them winning out. I'd rather see LSU win the SEC than UT, or anyone from the east for that matter.
I certainly will. A LSU championship will make it harder for Alabama to recruit against LSU but it will make it easier to win the national title, which is what Alabama football is all about.
With more and more teams from smaller conferences going unbeaten or suffering only one loss, the SEC needs to show that a one loss SEC team is still a better choice in the title game than an unbeaten team from the Big-East or WAC.
We also need to show that given the same overall record, an SEC team should be considered before those from other conferences.
If Alabama had gone unbeaten in 2005, we still would have missed out on the championship game, just like Auburn did the year before.
If we want Alabama to make the title game once we get rolling, the SEC is going to need respect. UF helped out a lot last year and this year, LSU can do the same.
With more and more teams from smaller conferences going unbeaten or suffering only one loss, the SEC needs to show that a one loss SEC team is still a better choice in the title game than an unbeaten team from the Big-East or WAC.
We also need to show that given the same overall record, an SEC team should be considered before those from other conferences.
If Alabama had gone unbeaten in 2005, we still would have missed out on the championship game, just like Auburn did the year before.
If we want Alabama to make the title game once we get rolling, the SEC is going to need respect. UF helped out a lot last year and this year, LSU can do the same.
Auburn getting screwed out of the title game had absolutely nothing to do with SEC respect. It had to do with AU's preseason ranking. If AU had begun the year in the top 2 they would have made the title game, but they started out pretty low (#17). If everyone loves the SEC it means nothing as far as an undefeated SEC team making it over an undefeated Big 12 or Pac 10 team that was ranked preseason 1 or 2. USC and Oklahoma were #1 and #2 preseason respectively and then won all their games. It would have been a travesty to let AU jump either team at the end of the year. It was a result of a bad system and AU's low preseason expectations, NOT of a lack of respect for the SEC. That argument holds absolutely no water.
Yes. They represent the SEC. And every year that we can play for the NT is another reason the media should shut up about the PAC 10.
This subject has been beaten to death, but I'll ask this...again...
How does it help us for LSU or any other SEC team to win the NC when we recruit head-to-head with them? Tell me.
I still haven't been given a good reason to pull for any other SEC team. Don't give me that bowl revenue sharing mess. That doesn't help when you're losing the recruiting war.
Besides, I haven't seen one corndog who has said they would pull for us if we were in the same situation. After the way the majority of their fanbase reacted to our coach being hired, I could careless if they ever win another game.
Conference unity went out the window the last decade.
How does it help us for LSU or any other SEC team to win the NC when we recruit head-to-head with them? Tell me.
I still haven't been given a good reason to pull for any other SEC team. Don't give me that bowl revenue sharing mess. That doesn't help when you're losing the recruiting war.
Besides, I haven't seen one corndog who has said they would pull for us if we were in the same situation. After the way the majority of their fanbase reacted to our coach being hired, I could careless if they ever win another game.
Conference unity went out the window the last decade.
I agree and am not worried about the recruiting aspects of LSU. LSU needs to win the NC to show that the Pac-10 is garbage, with their high flying offenses and terrible defenses, and the Big 12 is a joke, right along with the Big 10, who had thier chance last year but got smoked by UF.
I swear, if it's Oregon and LSU I will become the biggest Dennis Dixon fan in the Southeast. Oregon is a team I can easily cheer for. Kansas too, I love seeing ole Manteet-o on the sidelines. Oklahoma seems kind of like a kindred spirit for me so I could definitely cheer for them over LSU.
I have yet to hear a good argument as to why anyone should root for LSU.
I never said that Auburn got "screwed", just that respect for the SEC would help out in future situations like that.
I agree with your point about preseason rankings, but an even bigger reason was that Auburn was manhandled by USC the two previous years.
The bottom line is that much of the country believes that the SEC is vastly overrated and the "we beat each other up" is just an excuse to hide mediocrity. UF stifled that argument for now, but an LSU loss would just give more credence to the SEC haters.
If UF had lost last year to Ohio State, a lot of LSU's support for being #1 this year wouldn't be there.
I haven't made my mind up yet. While I agree its good for the SEC and it helps show that a 1 loss SEC team is still deserving of a title shot because of the brutal conference schedule, the downside is that it won't exactly help Bama's recruiting effort against LSU. Plus, i just dont know if i'll be able to stomach that smirk on LM's face if they do win it.
I agree. I haven't seen one bad-mouthing Oklahoma fan come on here, and we still have a couple of their posters who have stayed around and are a class act (wishbonesooner, etc.).
I don't pull for teams because they're in a conference. It doesn't make sense to pull for teams that worked to get you the death penalty. I still haven't seen a reasonable argument for that.
On the whole, Oklahoma has a class team and classy fans. I'll be pulling for them.
Nope. I will pull for them to get in there to open up another bowl possibility for the SEC, but hope they lose the game.
I completely agree and I post I have asked this about 300 times, but...
Who do you think we will remember in 3,5, or even in 10 years...LSU bragging about their NC trophy or which conference was stronger? I'm sure most couldn't list the top two conferences in terms of strength from two years ago.
No, AU didn't make the title game because of their preseason ranking and if you want a secondary reason it would be that AU played The Citadel instead of a 9 win BGSU team that backed out of the AU game to play Oklahoma. Nobody with half a brain sat back and said, "Hmm... AU got beat by USC in the first game of the year so let's not pick them". It had to do with preseason ranking and to a lesser extent out of conference scheduling.
If Bama begins next year #23 and ends up 13-0 and preseason #1 Oklahoma and preseason #2 USC go 13-0 and 12-0 respectively LSU winning the title in 2007 will have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with Bama getting into the title game.
The short answer is that I could care less if lsu ever wins another game. So no, I won't be pulling for them!
Because schedule strength, which is largely determined by conference strength, influences who goes to the big games. Last year, had the SEC not had a pedigree of success in BCS games (SEC has won 7 of last 8 at this point today), there's little chance Florida gets into the title game. Had Auburn's undefeated season come this year, rather than in 2004, given Fla's success last year, AU may have gotten a shot at the title or at least garnered enough votes for an AP title (fake though those may be).
Point is, if Alabama is ever a 1-loss team vying for the #2 slot in the title game with someone like OSU, Va Tech, or Oregon, it will behoove us if our league has shown it is consistently more dominant than the others in the big games.
Re Recruiting: With Saban here, I'm not worried about recruiting. Great thing is, even if LSU wins, Saban gets to play the "look what my recruits at LSU did" card. To the dismay of the LSU fans or not, it's a legit point. But I just don't see us getting out-recruited, to any significant degree, with Saban here, no matter what.
edit: Pretty much point A already said, must have left this window open for a while
Point is, if Alabama is ever a 1-loss team vying for the #2 slot in the title game with someone like OSU, Va Tech, or Oregon, it will behoove us if our league has shown it is consistently more dominant than the others in the big games.
Re Recruiting: With Saban here, I'm not worried about recruiting. Great thing is, even if LSU wins, Saban gets to play the "look what my recruits at LSU did" card. To the dismay of the LSU fans or not, it's a legit point. But I just don't see us getting out-recruited, to any significant degree, with Saban here, no matter what.
edit: Pretty much point A already said, must have left this window open for a while
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Bingo!
I used to support others in the SEC but because of what has transpired over the last several yrs from our rivals rejoice in watching us getting beaten down; the heck with all of them!
I disagree with you on this on TiM. In the past decade, the rest of the conference did unite as one to kick Bama while we were down.
So i guess i just made up my mind about pulling for LSU. I WON'T be !!!!!!!
Nor will I pull for any other SEC other than the Crimson Tide. P on em all. RTR
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