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Spurrier blasts Admissions Process at USC

How embarrassing for USC and Clemson.

One reason I respect Notre Dame is that they don't make excuses like this. You want to play there, you have to meet their standards. No HC at ND would survive a week after talking in the papers about the need to relax their admissions standards in order to "level the playing field."
 
Look at it from Spurrier's POV: he offers a commitment to a player, they make a commitment to him, the players do what is necessary by the NCAA to be eligible, but the institution he represents denies them their education. How is that not going to hurt him? A guy with an iffy high school resume commits to [insert school name] because USC might not let him in even if he qualifies.
 
rgw said:
Look at it from Spurrier's POV: he offers a commitment to a player, they make a commitment to him, the players do what is necessary by the NCAA to be eligible, but the institution he represents denies them their education. How is that not going to hurt him? A guy with an iffy high school resume commits to [insert school name] because USC might not let him in even if he qualifies.
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I bet Tubby is ready to jump all over this. A grade change here, another one there, and before you know it, that iffy high school resume turns into an orange and blue degree in Sociology. :wink:
 
BS

Spurrier had to know what USC's admissions standards are when he took the job (and last time I checked, USC was not exactly a selective university); and if he didn't, shame on him. Now he's offering scholarships to guys who could legitimately gain admission to a lesser university (such as, say, Auburn) but who do not meet the higher admissions standards of his university. Who's doing the kids a disservice: A) USC's administration, as Spurrier claims, in the process sounding for all the world like Pat Dye? Or B) Spurrier? The correct answer is B) Spurrier, for offering false hope to kids he never should have.
 
I used to be at Clemson and I can shed some insight on what happens there and also at USC (bc this really did happen almost every year).
They recruit a player. Then find out he barely qualifies according to the NCAA. At this point they chat his mom up about how they will take care of him and how he is one of them and they love him. They even establish a relationship with his high school coach so that they can funnel later athletes into their program. Then the college admissions panel meets and says that they will review the athlete's grades to make sure he can function at the university. They will typically drag their heals until even as late as the very end of summer and just days before the kid is supposed to report. Then they come down with a ruling declaring him ineligible. The coach is irate bc in effect he wasted all this time on a kid that won't be able to play for him. The kid and his family are irate bc now he is left scrambling trying to find a place that will offer him a scholarship even though most major programs have already used all their scholarships. The high school coach is irate about how his star player just got treated and refuses to send any more kids to that university.
It really is a terrible situation for all involved. It would be solved by:
1. College admissions panel making these decisions A LOT EARLIER in the recruiting process.
2. Eliminating the gray area which causes these panels to have to meet and give case by case opinions. They should create an absolute standard for getting into the school and not some arbitrary sliding point system which is obscure and not consistent.
 
The above situation could be easily rectified by simply implementing and enforcing a policy to where the prospective student athlete would have to (a) apply for admission to the school (b) be accepted by the academic admissions board. Then and only then is the coach is given clearance to offer a scholarship. That way everyone knows up front whether the kid is academically qualified and is going to be able to play.
But of course, that would be too easy. :rolleye2:
 
First, these are not partial qualifiers as implied above. These kids fully qualified under NCAA rules who passed NCAA Clearinghouse. Second, these kids met USC & clemson eligibility rules as they had been implemented in the past - it was the academic boards, not Spurrier & Bowden who changed the rules midstream.

All this has come about due to the new NCAA rules on linking scholarships to graduation rates. USC & clemson are trying to be proactive and weed out kids who qualify, but who are borderline and are considered at risk of not making it 4 or 5 years in the program. I think gmart's post summed it up in that the coaches are more upset at this hitting last minute without warning than they are at having high academic standards (both Spurrier & Tommy actually emphasize academics much more than there predecessors at USC & clemson). In a few years when other schools are paying the price with lost scholarships for taking too many chances on borderline kids, USC & clemson may be sitting on a competitive advantage for being proactive. I imagine these 2 schools are ahead of the game and it won't be long before every school is scrutinizing recruits this way. NCAA just needs to push schools to do so earlier in the process as these late decisions are very unfair to the recruits and their families.
 
I think its funny Andrew Sorenson is the president of South Carolina, he should know about getting athletes into the school. There are two schools of thought here; 1. The players going to that university should be treated like any other student. At UGA You need a 3.4 and a 1200 on the SAT to even be considered, or 2. You pass the clearing house and the school lets you in under their policy they have in place for prospective athletes. Do you really think half the team on UGA would have qualified to get in under their normal circumstances? Its pathetic. Those guys at USC must have barely passed clearinghouse because they will let anyone in to these schools that do so.
 
Spurrier shouldn't have promised the families of these recruits that they would get into SC if they didn't have the grades to get into SC.

It is that simple.
 
Queasy1 said:
Spurrier shouldn't have promised the families of these recruits that they would get into SC if they didn't have the grades to get into SC.

It is that simple.
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I have to admit that I don't know the details, but I have to believe that an experienced recruiter like Spurrier would know the stated ground rules at his school. (Also, they must have a recruiting coordinator who should be watching stuff like that.) I get the feeling that someone else at USC got involved and set a higher standard.

If that's true, then it has to be resolved so that other schools can't use this in recruiting against Spurrier. I don't recall ever hearing bad recruiting practices coming from Spurrier, so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
in the article it said that Spurrier had had the drug policy changed from 3 stikes and you are out to 4,what is UA's drug policy?
 
Isaiah 63:1 said:
How embarrassing for USC and Clemson.

One reason I respect Notre Dame is that they don't make excuses like this. You want to play there, you have to meet their standards. No HC at ND would survive a week after talking in the papers about the need to relax their admissions standards in order to "level the playing field."
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You are sorely mistaken if you think that Notre Dame doesn't make exceptions to their admission policy. They always have! Several of their football players didn't make the grade in high school but were "given a second chance" by Notre Dame. The reason you don't hear much about it is because it's a private University and they can do whatever they want as long as a player makes it through the NCAA clearinghouse. I promise you there are students who would be turned down due to their grades and athletes who are admitted with the same grades. Many examples have been given over the years of athletes who were very average students who made it in ND.

That dome is seriously tarnished in more ways than one.
 
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