Game Thread: TCU @ UGA - National Championship game thread

[DanoCanuck]

When I was looking for ratings myself I did find these TV viewership predictions.

Also copied a couple paragraphs from the athletic. Nothing like a few more drops of pee on the leg humpers parade. LOL

https://awfulannouncing.com/college...-the-2023-cfp-national-championship-game.html

PREDICTIONS:
Sean Keeley: 21.4 million viewers.
Ken Fang: 24.1 million viewers.
Michael Dixon: 29 million viewers.
Phillip Bupp: 23.5 million viewers.
Michael Grant: 19 million viewers.
Ben Koo: 21.8 million viewers.

From the Athletic:

Monday night quickly proved to be a one-sided affair, and many viewers abandoned ESPN’s 100-camera, multiplatform MegaCast once it was evident quite early that the Bulldogs were going to win in a historic rout. While the Georgia faithful may have stuck around for obvious reasons, the casual fans without a vested rooting or gambling interest seem to have sought better entertainment options.

The 2021-22 season culminated with Georgia beating Alabama with an audience of 22.6 million on ESPN.

The game was hardly in doubt after the first quarter. That’s about the time when many viewers checked out. Viewership peaked in the 8:30 p.m.

8P ET: 20.33M
8:15: 21.85M
8:30: 22.365M
8:45: 22.18M
9:00: 20.795M
9:15: 16.226M
9:30: 15.885M
9:45: 16.24M
10:00: 14.95M
10:15: 13.34M
10:30: 11.8M
10:45: 10.3M

The least-watched college football title game in the history of the College Football Playoff and its predecessor the Bowl Championship Series.

 

[RammerJammer14]

I’ve pretty much come to the conclusion that metrics - Sagarin etc should be used and get humans out of it after all this. At least computers have an ethos.

I said back when they announced the playoff format, a committee makes no sense as a replacement to the BCS system unless the goal is to create leeway for ranking teams and seeding games on subjective, political considerations (political as in sports political).

The BCS combined multiple computer models that took into consideration strength of schedule and records, as well as the votes of 172 different voters across 2 different polls (58 Coaches, 114 Harris).

The committee system threw all that out for….13 voters.

 

[CajunCrimson]

I do admit that I’m tired of hearing us whine. I’m glad that the season is over. Looking forward to next year. Because the look on Coach Saban’s face tells me that this dynasty is far from over.

 

[dtgreg]

I said back when they announced the playoff format, a committee makes no sense as a replacement to the BCS system unless the goal is to create leeway for ranking teams and seeding games on subjective, political considerations (political as in sports political).

The BCS combined multiple computer models that took into consideration strength of schedule and records, as well as the votes of 172 different voters across 2 different polls (58 Coaches, 114 Harris).

The committee system threw all that out for….13 voters.

It's simply about trying to expand the footprint, legitimately or not. This is about $. This is show business. It has been this way since they first hired coaches who were not players or already employed as Professors who donated their time. It's been this way since the schools got a cut of gate receipts. If you want purity, watch intramurals. This is Pro ball. The expansion of profits is the goal. The inclusion of the far west and the midwest and the east only increases eyeballs on the tv sets, which is all that matters.

 

[STONECOLDSABAN]

Think about this:
1) TCU lost a conference championship game (which was supposed to matter) and held serve.
2) They lost by 58 points and moved up one spot.

Using this logic, a 116-point beatdown would have made them national champions.

The logic (of the committee and the voters) is so inconsistent. In 2020 Alabama beat Notre dame by 17 points and Notre dame dropped behind Texas a&m in the final poll. (Who Bama beat by 28 points). Now some may argue "it was there second straight loss after getting smacked by clemson" But how is it fair then that TCU can lose a conference title game, not drop a spot, get beat by 58 points in the title game and move up?

 

[twofbyc]

I take some consolation that this was the least watched championship game since the CFP began.

Georgia-TCU title game draws record-low viewership

ESPN networks averaged 17.2 million viewers for Georgia's blowout win over TCU in the national championship game Monday night.

theathletic.com

 

[Saban4Ever]

I'm just curious... who actually picks the CFP Committee? What are the qualifications? Don't they change members every 2-3 years? I wonder what they really discuss in those meetings and how in depth they look at the teams. It does seem like they have gotten it correct most years except for this year. Not sure about who would have gotten the 4th spot last year if not Cincinnati..

Hopefully, Bama will have new OC/DC next season, as well as other coaches who can develop players better and have more "fire" with overall coaching. Bama needs to make it to the National Championship game next season and win it all. I am confident once there is a 12 team playoff that Bama will be in the top 6 every year. Definitely don't want UGA winning a 3 peat next season.

 

[SkullDuckery]

The 18 one against Clemson was pretty rough, I sat and watch that whole game through too.

We didn’t get outmanned like this though, it was more frustrating cause we kept shooting ourselves in the foot.

It’s not like we didn’t belong there. Clemson just had a great scheme against Tua and we never adjusted, or at least way too late.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I said back when they announced the playoff format, a committee makes no sense as a replacement to the BCS system unless the goal is to create leeway for ranking teams and seeding games on subjective, political considerations (political as in sports political).

It was created as a fail safe for when Boise State or some other pretender stuck its nose under the door. Think of it as peer review.

The BCS combined multiple computer models that took into consideration strength of schedule and records, as well as the votes of 172 different voters across 2 different polls (58 Coaches, 114 Harris).

The committee system threw all that out for….13 voters.

We're complaining about human voters. Still. Been going on since 1936. Alabama fans still believe myths like "that one voter who voted us 16th in 1977 so Notre Dame could win" (which never happened).

The computers are only going to see what humans program it to see.

The EYE test this year basically showed us - Georgia appears to be the best, Alabama and Tennessee are right there on any given day, Michigan and Ohio State are close and one might conceivably upset the SEC team. TCU failed the eye test.

Let me show you something nobody bothers to notice:

2018 OKLAHOMA VS 2022 TCU RESUME (PRE-PLAYOFF)
OU beat a 3-9 Pac 12 disaster at home by 28; TCU beat a 1-11 Pac-12 disaster on the road by 25
OU had five single-score (8 points or less) wins; TCU had five single-score wins
OU faced one team (Texas) twice that they lost by 3 in one and beat by 8 in the other;
TCU faced on team (K-State) twice that they lost by 3 in one and beat by 10 in the other.

OU offense 45.1
TCU offense 40.3 (not including Michigan and UGA)
OU defense 27.1
TCU defense 25.0 (not including Michigan and UGA)

Now if you'll recall, NOBODY was saying anything about Oklahoma not belonging - some sort of obsession with offense. Oklahoma's offense was 3rd in the country, TCU's was 9th - but it WAS the top offense in the Big 12, too. And, oh yeah, two-loss UGA that had lost the previous year's NCG was excluded in 18 just as two-loss Alabama that had lost the previous year's NCG was excluded this year.

OU had just as many close games as TCU - it's just that simple minds get dazzled when the final scores are 48-47 than when they're 29-28 (those are actual results btw).

I'm not saying 2018 OU's offense wasn't better than TCU - but it wasn't nearly as much better as the hype would have you believe, either. And their defense, the most godawful I've ever seen in a title contender, wasn't that much worse than TCU's either.

It's just that the same people who say "TCU has no business there" somehow give Oklahoma a pass because a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, they won a bunch of championships - back when it was nothing but a vote (so who knows how legit those would be?).

They were essentially the same team. And in a cruel irony...what really kept Georgia out of the playoff? A defensive collapse...in Baton Rouge.

 

[CrimSonami]

I take some consolation that this was the least watched championship game since the CFP began.

Georgia-TCU title game draws record-low viewership

ESPN networks averaged 17.2 million viewers for Georgia's blowout win over TCU in the national championship game Monday night.

theathletic.com

As expected. Seems the majority of the viewership, including myself, weren't interested in a Cinderella story remake being a blood and gore murder flick.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

wow...dawgs sent out for pizza or wings or something during the game. Guess it was too boring for them huh?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1612656131280867331

They didn't "send out" for anything. There is another video out there, I saw it on Reddit yesterday. SoFi Stadium has luxury boxes at field level an the players got food from one of them. People were joking that SoFi will install "do not feed the players" signs.

 

[The Ols]

They didn't "send out" for anything. There is another video out there, I saw it on Reddit yesterday. SoFi Stadium has luxury boxes at field level an the players got food from one of them. People were joking that they SoFi will install "do not feed the players" signs.

The guy that fed them lives in my neighborhood. I have the whole video...There's a lot more to the story, family board.

 

[Tidelines]

Sounds like something Miami would have done back in the 90s.

 

[TideEngineer08]

It's simply about trying to expand the footprint, legitimately or not. This is about $. This is show business. It has been this way since they first hired coaches who were not players or already employed as Professors who donated their time. It's been this way since the schools got a cut of gate receipts. If you want purity, watch intramurals. This is Pro ball. The expansion of profits is the goal. The inclusion of the far west and the midwest and the east only increases eyeballs on the tv sets, which is all that matters.

Except it will be the ruin of the game financially. Just see the ratings last night.

This is the classic example of children begging for the shiny new toy and once they finally get it, after a day or two it's thrown into the back of the closet.

I would be willing to bet these ratings from this game will get our esteemed committee's attention...

 

[TideEngineer08]

Just saw that Spencer Rattler is coming back at South Carolina next year.

Georgia's 2023 schedule just got a lot tougher.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

Except it will be the ruin of the game financially. Just see the ratings last night.

This is the classic example of children begging for the shiny new toy and once they finally get it, after a day or two it's thrown into the back of the closet.

I would be willing to bet these ratings from this game will get our esteemed committee's attention...

ESPN has already been paid for this years CFP. It would take a game like this for a number of years before advertisers start to resist ESPN's asking prices. I bet ESPN has already sold most of the ad spots for the next year.

 

[Tidelines]

Just saw that Spencer Rattler is coming back at South Carolina next year.

Georgia's 2023 schedule just got a lot tougher.

Didn’t a couple of their better players hit the portal? I don’t know how much tougher Georgia’s schedule got In the east.

 

[TideEngineer08]

ESPN has already been paid for this years CFP. It would take a game like this for a number of years before advertisers start to resist ESPN's asking prices. I bet ESPN has already sold most of the ad spots for the next year.

Maybe I'm too cynical, but I don't believe that's the mindset they would have. The point is that numbers like the other night can and will happen with match ups like that. People won't watch. That is going to be something the committee will strongly consider.

 

[81usaf92]

It was created as a fail safe for when Boise State or some other pretender stuck its nose under the door. Think of it as peer review.




We're complaining about human voters. Still. Been going on since 1936. Alabama fans still believe myths like "that one voter who voted us 16th in 1977 so Notre Dame could win" (which never happened).

The computers are only going to see what humans program it to see.

The EYE test this year basically showed us - Georgia appears to be the best, Alabama and Tennessee are right there on any given day, Michigan and Ohio State are close and one might conceivably upset the SEC team. TCU failed the eye test.

Let me show you something nobody bothers to notice:

2018 OKLAHOMA VS 2022 TCU RESUME (PRE-PLAYOFF)
OU beat a 3-9 Pac 12 disaster at home by 28; TCU beat a 1-11 Pac-12 disaster on the road by 25
OU had five single-score (8 points or less) wins; TCU had five single-score wins
OU faced one team (Texas) twice that they lost by 3 in one and beat by 8 in the other;
TCU faced on team (K-State) twice that they lost by 3 in one and beat by 10 in the other.

OU offense 45.1
TCU offense 40.3 (not including Michigan and UGA)
OU defense 27.1
TCU defense 25.0 (not including Michigan and UGA)

Now if you'll recall, NOBODY was saying anything about Oklahoma not belonging - some sort of obsession with offense. Oklahoma's offense was 3rd in the country, TCU's was 9th - but it WAS the top offense in the Big 12, too. And, oh yeah, two-loss UGA that had lost the previous year's NCG was excluded in 18 just as two-loss Alabama that had lost the previous year's NCG was excluded this year.

OU had just as many close games as TCU - it's just that simple minds get dazzled when the final scores are 48-47 than when they're 29-28 (those are actual results btw).

I'm not saying 2018 OU's offense wasn't better than TCU - but it wasn't nearly as much better as the hype would have you believe, either. And their defense, the most godawful I've ever seen in a title contender, wasn't that much worse than TCU's either.

It's just that the same people who say "TCU has no business there" somehow give Oklahoma a pass because a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, they won a bunch of championships - back when it was nothing but a vote (so who knows how legit those would be?).

They were essentially the same team. And in a cruel irony...what really kept Georgia out of the playoff? A defensive collapse...in Baton Rouge.

Well it was also because Oklahoma had the Heisman winner and the score in Miami looked more respectable because our defense got tired.

 

[BamaMoon]

I do admit that I’m tired of hearing us whine. I’m glad that the season is over. Looking forward to next year. Because the look on Coach Saban’s face tells me that this dynasty is far from over.

It's gonna be a long off-season of hand-wringing and uncertainty leading into next year. Probably the most uncertainty in recent years.

But hope you're correct about the look on CNS's face meaning good things!