Textbook Situation: The Closing Chapter

[silentsam74]

Also, Antoine Caldwell and Glen Coffee discussed the textbook situation for the first time publicly, with both saying no money exchanged hands during the receipt of excess books.

"I wasn't trying to do anything I see (as) wrong. I was trying to help out friends," Coffee said. "There's wasn't any money involved. Books were returned after they used the books. I was trying to do good, actually."

Practice updates ... and textbooks

Antoine Caldwell and Glen Coffee met with reporters a few minutes ago following Monday morning's practice and discussed their suspensions for the textbook situation.

Both said they didn't make any money from the situation. Caldwell said he got books for free that weren't on his schedule and gave them to another student. "I was trying to help someone out," he said.

Talking textbooks

"There was no money involved, which helped my situation," Caldwell said. "I didn't sell a book."

Asked if he knew it was wrong, Caldwell said, "I didn't. But now that I've got a chance to sit down and learn the rules, I realize I made a bad mistake. But at the time, I didn't know it was wrong, and if I did, I wouldn't have taken the chance."

Coffee reiterated what Caldwell said.

"I'm not being sneaky about it, trying to do this, do that -- there were no covert operations," Coffee said. "It was just, go get them and whatever. But I knew I wasn't in the right."

Caldwell: "No money involved."

 

[CapstoneTider]

Punishment comes hard and fast for walk-ons

 

[FPBama]

Thanks for the info. This should put some rumors to rest.

 

[StoneMtnDew]

The players were put in a bad situation due to a stupid system. I was on scholarship through the athletic dept a few years ago and I just went to the Supestore and told them my name and they gave me books that had been set aside for me. I don't know why that's not what they do now.

 

[atlbamafan02]

The players were put in a bad situation due to a stupid system. I was on scholarship through the athletic dept a few years ago and I just went to the Supestore and told them my name and they gave me books that had been set aside for me. I don't know why that's not what they do now.

My tution and books were paid by the Montgomery GI Bill (Dad was a disabled Vietnam vet) and that system was still in place in 99, my last year in school. Truth be told, any scholarship student who had the "hook up" in the SupeStore could have done the same thing. I wonder if those students got suspended.

 

[bamaslammer]

Its just a lesson in life we all have to learn, nothing is ever free, if you didn't pay for it its never really yours, yada yada ya, I'm glad its over and I hope the University prevents this from happening again because those suspensions cost us dearly

 

[Bamaro]

I'm still not sure why they got penalized for 4 weeks instead of 1???

 

[paulym]

Does anyone else feel like this is a no brainer? How can these players not feel that this was wrong. You are using YOUR scholorship money to pay for books for SOMEONE ELSE. Hello? Regardless wether any money changed hands, it's still stealing. If you want to buy books for someone get a job, and pay for them properly.

 

[Queasy1]

Does anyone else feel like this is a no brainer? How can these players not feel that this was wrong. You are using YOUR scholorship money to pay for books for SOMEONE ELSE. Hello? Regardless wether any money changed hands, it's still stealing. If you want to buy books for someone get a job, and pay for them properly.

I don't think anyone is saying that they didn't do anything wrong. They're just wondering if what they did equates to a 4 game suspension.

 

[ForTide]

I don't think anyone is saying that they didn't do anything wrong. They're just wondering if what they did equates to a 4 game suspension.

I guess it was for 4 games because it took that long to investigate and come to a conclusion. If they where to suspend them after the investigation they would have probably gotten 2 games at the most.
As I understand it we suspended them not knowing what the results of the investigation would be. We just wanted to err on the side of caution. I would rather be safe than sorry.

 

[Crimson Hawk]

At any rate, this could cost us AC's Senoir year.

 

[paulym]

I don't think anyone is saying that they didn't do anything wrong. They're just wondering if what they did equates to a 4 game suspension.

They both state in the above quotes that they didn't do anything they saw as wrong. That tells me they didn't realize it was wrong until someone told them it was wrong. These are men, not 3 year old boys who don't know the difference between right and wrong.

 

[silentsam74]

They both state in the above quotes that they didn't do anything they saw as wrong. That tells me they didn't realize it was wrong until someone told them it was wrong. These are men, not 3 year old boys who don't know the difference between right and wrong.

I think they were of the opinion that since they got the books back and returned them after the other students had completed their classes that it was a 'no harm - no foul.' At least thats what Patrick told Sponge Bob.:smile:

 

[GulfCoastTider]

As bad as our textbook scandal was, at least Alabama players and their cohorts were actually using the books to gain an education.

James Brooks didn't need no books.

Neither did the Auburn Sociology Department.

Or the Tennessee Chair Stacker-uppers.

Now we hear that the equivalent of a starting lineup is being suspended at Free Shoes U for "academic irregularities."

Justice was done when those five players were made to sit out several crucial games. It was as good an education in doing the right thing as anything they'll get in a classroom.

It ain't easy doing the right thing, but it sure is easier to sleep with yourself afterwards.