The Church Thread: Chapter I Verse I

[some_al_fan]

“In reality, Nigeria’s conflicts are multifaceted, driven by ethnic rivalries, land disputes and criminality, with religion often secondary,” Kakanda wrote. “While Western media often highlight attacks on churches and Christian communities, the reality is that these terrorists are indiscriminate in their violence.”

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Posts here reminding me of my own journey in life…….(narcissistic post….

- spend the better part of 18 years discussing religion away from work
- go to seminary for a Masters
- never, ever discuss religion ever again with anyone

With 99% of people it’s POINTLESS, and I’m not exaggerating. No matter how polite or nice or calm you are, people are ready to strangle you over the fact that if you disagree with them about something, they take it like you’re telling them the Grandma who read them the Bible on her knee was wrong about something and you deserve to die.

Well, she was but it doesn’t make her a bad person.

Let me put it like this: l get the same cringe feeling of despair when someone wants to tell me the old “I studied” as if seminary training isn’t, you know, STUDYING that l get from the “do research” anti-vaxxers (while my specialty is NOT vaccination, I’ve taken 3 high level Immunology courses, one Infectious Disease course and a masters level course in Molecular Diagnostics to go with 30 years of turning out reports on clotting factors).

Now to be clear: that does not automatically make me right and you wrong while discussing a religious subject, but you also have to accept that odds are very high that I have already heard your argument. And one thing you find the higher you go in academia studying it, the more gray exists in a number of areas. (Beyond a physical return of Jesus being prophesied, I cannot tell you anything about the future but Johnny who memorized Revelation can tell you how the 1991 Gulf War fits into it).

The epitaph of “spent 26 years studying, graduated, never used what he’d learned” occasionally depresses me. But it’s more in finding attempts at discussion pointless.

Continue with your lives everyone. (This has come up 3x this week so it’s not just about here).

ETA: much like in politics, people will make up on the spot pretty much any argument on this subject.

 

[75thru79]

“In reality, Nigeria’s conflicts are multifaceted, driven by ethnic rivalries, land disputes and criminality, with religion often secondary,” Kakanda wrote. “While Western media often highlight attacks on churches and Christian communities, the reality is that these terrorists are indiscriminate in their violence.”

To me it really doesn't matter which group of people is killing the other. It is completely messed up regardless of which group is killing and being killed. There is no place for it in the 21st century.

 

[some_al_fan]

To me it really doesn't matter which group of people is killing the other. It is completely messed up regardless of which group is killing and being killed. There is no place for it in the 21st century.

If it does not matter to you what group of people is killing the other, then why did you reply to my post, which debunks Trump’s lies, and not to the original post quoting Trump’s lies about killing Christians?

 

[75thru79]

Trump’s lies about killing Christians?

Because it's not a lie. It is well documented that a larger number of Christians have been murdered in Nigeria over the last few years. Are they being killed simply because they are Christian or are there other motives/reasons. I don't know the answer to that. I suspect it's a little bit of both political and religious. My post was to point out that any reason they think they have is not sufficient their actions.

If I posted that grass was green you would come back with something like grass is not green, it's a shade of yellow and we shouldn't be growing it anyway since it wastes water.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

US bishops officially ban gender-affirming care at Catholic hospitals

U.S. Catholic bishops have voted to make official a ban on gender-affirming care for transgender patients at Catholic hospitals. The decision formalizes a yearslong process for the U.S. church to

www.tdtnews.com

U.S. Catholic bishops voted Wednesday to make official a ban on gender-affirming care for transgender patients at Catholic hospitals. The step formalizes a yearslong process for the U.S. church to address transgender health care.

From a Baltimore hotel ballroom, the bishops overwhelmingly approved revisions to their ethical and religious directives that guide the nation’s thousands of Catholic health care institutions and providers.

And before anyone loses their minds, these people are not banned from receiving care outside the scope of "gender affirming" procedures.

The Catholic Health Association thanked the bishops for incorporating much of the organization’s feedback into the directives. It said in a statement, “Catholic providers will continue to welcome those who seek medical care from us and identify as transgender. We will continue to treat these individuals with dignity and respect, which is consistent with Catholic social teaching and our moral obligation to serve everyone, particularly those who are marginalized.”

 

[Huckleberry]

NYT Gift Article

Federal Judge Orders Some Texas Schools to Remove Ten Commandment Posters​

The judge sided with families of students who had argued that the displays infringed on their religious freedom.
A federal judge ordered some public school districts in Texas on Tuesday to remove Ten Commandment displays from their classroom walls by next month, a victory for families who had argued that the posters infringed on their religious freedom.

The ruling from Judge Orlando L. Garcia, of U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas, comes after Gov. Greg Abbott signed in June a law requiring school districts to display the Ten Commandments in a “conspicuous location” in each classroom. The ruling applies to 14 public school districts, including ones in Fort Worth, Arlington and Conroe.

 

[Padreruf]

NYT Gift Article

Federal Judge Orders Some Texas Schools to Remove Ten Commandment Posters​

The judge sided with families of students who had argued that the displays infringed on their religious freedom.
A federal judge ordered some public school districts in Texas on Tuesday to remove Ten Commandment displays from their classroom walls by next month, a victory for families who had argued that the posters infringed on their religious freedom.

The ruling from Judge Orlando L. Garcia, of U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas, comes after Gov. Greg Abbott signed in June a law requiring school districts to display the Ten Commandments in a “conspicuous location” in each classroom. The ruling applies to 14 public school districts, including ones in Fort Worth, Arlington and Conroe.

What has always intrigued me about this issue is that if these groups are Christian, then why don't they want to post the Beatitudes? Why pick what can only be accurately described as a Jewish document?

I hate it when politicians use faith/religion to further their personal and/or political goals. It is a sacrilege...worthy of Henry VIII.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

NYT Gift Article

Federal Judge Orders Some Texas Schools to Remove Ten Commandment Posters​

The judge sided with families of students who had argued that the displays infringed on their religious freedom.
A federal judge ordered some public school districts in Texas on Tuesday to remove Ten Commandment displays from their classroom walls by next month, a victory for families who had argued that the posters infringed on their religious freedom.

I’m still quite good with separation of church and state and always will be, but I hate vague articles like this. What religious freedoms are these people arguing for? If it’s freedom FROM religion, I can understand that, but that’s not what this says.