The Church Thread: Chapter I Verse I

[AWRTR]

That’s a discouraging statistic. I wonder if violence against other religions has increased as well.

Maybe Jews. I’ll let you take a “stab” at why this is happening.

 

[Huckleberry]

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Student banned from graduation after coming out online, lawsuit says
Morgan Armstrong is suing Tennessee Christian Preparatory School, saying it threatened to withhold her diploma if she spoke out about the school.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Wray Lied About Extent Of FBI's Anti-Catholic Surveillance

Biden's FBI tried to cover up the nature of its anti-Catholic surveillance effort, and Christopher Wray appears to have lied to Congress.

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Former President Joe Biden’s Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) engaged in a cover-up to hide the sweeping nature of its anti-Catholic surveillance effort, where former director Christopher Wray appears to have lied to Congress claiming the operation was contained to a single memorandum.

New documents released by Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, show that the FBI actually had a bureau-wide investigation into what they deemed were “Radical Traditionalist Catholics” in the now-infamous “Richmond memo.”

The FBI relied on the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), a radically far-left organization known for labeling Christian and conservative organizations as “hate groups” on its “hate map,” to identify some of the Catholic groups to be targeted.

 

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SCOTUS: WI Supreme Court Violated Catholic Charity’s First Amendment Rights

The Supreme Court unanimously ruled Thursday that the Wisconsin Supreme Court violated a Catholic charity's First Amendment Rights.

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“The Wisconsin Supreme Court’s interpretation of [state law] imposed a denominational preference by differentiating between religions based on theological lines,” the court ruled. “[P]etitioners’ eligibility for the exemption ultimately turns on inherently religious choices (namely, whether to proselytize or serve only co-religionists in the course of charitable work), not ‘”secular criteria”‘ that ‘happen to have a “disparate impact” upon different religious organizations.’”

Writing for the unanimous court, Sotomayor explained that the Wisconsin Supreme Court erred when it deemed the CCB’s petition for exemption ineligible on the basis that the CCB and its sub-groups do not “attempt to imbue program participants with the Catholic faith.”

 

[Huckleberry]

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Southern Baptists Endorse Effort to Overturn Same-Sex Marriage
The nation’s largest Protestant denomination was motivated by conservative Christians’ success in reversing Roe v. Wade.

Southern Baptists voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday to call for the overturning of the Supreme Court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage, with strategists citing the successful effort that overturned the right to legal abortions as a possible blueprint for the new fight.

The denomination has long opposed gay marriage, but Tuesday was the first time its members have voted to work to legally end it. Expanding on conservatives’ success in overturning Roe v. Wade in 2022, the vote signals growing evangelical ambitions to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, the Supreme Court ruling that was handed down 10 years ago this month.

“What we’re trying to do is keep the conversation alive,” said Andrew Walker, an ethicist at a Southern Baptist seminary in Kentucky who wrote the resolution.

 

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Southern Baptists Endorse Effort to Overturn Same-Sex Marriage
The nation’s largest Protestant denomination was motivated by conservative Christians’ success in reversing Roe v. Wade.

Southern Baptists voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday to call for the overturning of the Supreme Court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage, with strategists citing the successful effort that overturned the right to legal abortions as a possible blueprint for the new fight.

The denomination has long opposed gay marriage, but Tuesday was the first time its members have voted to work to legally end it. Expanding on conservatives’ success in overturning Roe v. Wade in 2022, the vote signals growing evangelical ambitions to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, the Supreme Court ruling that was handed down 10 years ago this month.

“What we’re trying to do is keep the conversation alive,” said Andrew Walker, an ethicist at a Southern Baptist seminary in Kentucky who wrote the resolution.

This is one of the (many)places where religion loses me. I just don't understand why anyone would be against gay marriage in a modern context. There is no real solid argument for why gay marriage shouldn't be allowed. But this old book written in a completely different world context kind of says its wrong a few times so obviously it must be wrong and we should fight like hell to prevent it?

 

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The Spiritual Warfare of Vance Boelter
An accused assassin’s religious convictions are not unusual in American life.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

New Poll Shows How Badly Democrats Lost Christian Voters of All Stripes

A stunning 75% of Christian voters have little or no trust in the Democratic Party, per data shared first with TIME.

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A shocking 75% of these Christian voters say that they have little or no trust in the Democratic Party, according to the data shared first with TIME. (By contrast, Republicans just about break even on that question.) A stunning 70% of these voters have little to no confidence in the federal government. And 61% of these voters think life in America is harder today for people of faith than it was 10 years ago.

Bad numbers indeed, but regarding the bolded part, I can't help but wonder if this is an example of the victimization contagion that is infecting this country. It seems even some conservatives want to get on board with this nincompoopery.

To put all that in context, recall that Black voters are the most reliable members of the Democratic coalition and the Black Church is the only reason these numbers aren’t even worse.

This is a hell of a good point. I'd like to see a person with a head for numbers-crunching actually do the math on this.

Both the Democratic Party and its voters are seen as unfriendly toward Christianity. In Pagitt’s survey, 58% of Christians see the Democratic Party as hostile to Christianity and 54% see the same traits among Democratic voters. By contrast, the same voters say the Republican Party is friendly to the tune of 70% and say the same about GOP voters at the rate of 72%.

I say it all the time: optics, optics and optics. Look, bullcrapping an entire demographic is nothing new to Democrats (or Republicans for that matter.) They know how to do it, but the reluctance to do so with Christians is mind-boggling to me. Sure, you can't win them all, but some is better than none. What are they so worried about?

 

[AWRTR]

New Poll Shows How Badly Democrats Lost Christian Voters of All Stripes

A stunning 75% of Christian voters have little or no trust in the Democratic Party, per data shared first with TIME.

time.com

Bad numbers indeed, but regarding the bolded part, I can't help but wonder if this is an example of the victimization contagion that is infecting this country. It seems even some conservatives want to get on board with this nincompoopery.



This is a hell of a good point. I'd like to see a person with a head for numbers-crunching actually do the math on this.



I say it all the time: optics, optics and optics. Look, bullcrapping an entire demographic is nothing new to Democrats (or Republicans for that matter.) They know how to do it, but the reluctance to do so with Christians is mind-boggling to me. Sure, you can't win them all, but some is better than none. What are they so worried about?

Appealing to historical Christians is tough for the Dems because so much of their hard core base needed to win a primary has become very hostile to many historical Christian beliefs. They are caught in a mess that during Bill Clinton times didn’t even exist for them. Can you imagine the 2028 Dem nominee putting Clinton’s electoral map together? I sure can’t. My parents voted for Clinton in 1992 and I did in 96 in my first presidential election. I can tell you that was the last Dem my dad ever voted for.

 

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Southern Baptists Endorse Effort to Overturn Same-Sex Marriage
The nation’s largest Protestant denomination was motivated by conservative Christians’ success in reversing Roe v. Wade.

Southern Baptists voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday to call for the overturning of the Supreme Court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage, with strategists citing the successful effort that overturned the right to legal abortions as a possible blueprint for the new fight.

The denomination has long opposed gay marriage, but Tuesday was the first time its members have voted to work to legally end it. Expanding on conservatives’ success in overturning Roe v. Wade in 2022, the vote signals growing evangelical ambitions to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, the Supreme Court ruling that was handed down 10 years ago this month.

“What we’re trying to do is keep the conversation alive,” said Andrew Walker, an ethicist at a Southern Baptist seminary in Kentucky who wrote the resolution.

I have been saying this all along. The religious extremists are not going to stop with the repeal of Roe.


I am pretty sure they will have contraception on their target list as well.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

I have been saying this all along. The religious extremists are not going to stop with the repeal of Roe.


I am pretty sure they will have contraception on their target list as well.

Nope, Evangelicals don’t have a problem with contraception. Neither do Protestants.

 

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[Its On A Slab]

Nope, Evangelicals don’t have a problem with contraception. Neither do Protestants.

5 of the 9 right-wing justices are Catholic.

 

[Huckleberry]

Nope, Evangelicals don’t have a problem with contraception. Neither do Protestants.

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Justice Thomas: SCOTUS ‘should reconsider’ contraception, same-sex marriage rulings
Democrats warned that the court would seek to undo other constitutional rights if it overturned Roe v. Wade, as it did on Friday.

Justice Clarence Thomas argued in a concurring opinion released on Friday that the Supreme Court “should reconsider” its past rulings codifying rights to contraception access, same-sex relationships and same-sex marriage.

The sweeping suggestion from the current court’s longest-serving justice came in the concurring opinion he authored in response to the court’s ruling revoking the constitutional right to abortion, also released on Friday.

In his concurring opinion, Thomas — an appointee of President George H.W. Bush — wrote that the justices “should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell” — referring to three cases having to do with Americans’ fundamental privacy, due process and equal protection rights.

The Supreme Court Prepares to Take Its First Shot at Contraception

A case just added to the high court’s docket takes on the question of whether Medicaid can be used to pay for services at medical providers that also perform abortions.

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The Supreme Court Prepares to Take Its First Shot at Contraception
A case just added to the high court’s docket takes on the question of whether Medicaid can be used to pay for services at medical providers that also perform abortions.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

5 of the 9 right-wing justices are Catholic.

Which doesn’t mean Jack. When the boomers are gone for good, that will be the last generation where the majority of Catholics adhered to church teaching on this matter.

 

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www.politico.com

Justice Thomas: SCOTUS ‘should reconsider’ contraception, same-sex marriage rulings
Democrats warned that the court would seek to undo other constitutional rights if it overturned Roe v. Wade, as it did on Friday.

Justice Clarence Thomas argued in a concurring opinion released on Friday that the Supreme Court “should reconsider” its past rulings codifying rights to contraception access, same-sex relationships and same-sex marriage.

The sweeping suggestion from the current court’s longest-serving justice came in the concurring opinion he authored in response to the court’s ruling revoking the constitutional right to abortion, also released on Friday.

In his concurring opinion, Thomas — an appointee of President George H.W. Bush — wrote that the justices “should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell” — referring to three cases having to do with Americans’ fundamental privacy, due process and equal protection rights.

The Supreme Court Prepares to Take Its First Shot at Contraception

A case just added to the high court’s docket takes on the question of whether Medicaid can be used to pay for services at medical providers that also perform abortions.

www.thenation.com

I wouldn’t worry myself over one person’s personal opinion.

The Supreme Court Prepares to Take Its First Shot at Contraception

A case just added to the high court’s docket takes on the question of whether Medicaid can be used to pay for services at medical providers that also perform abortions.

Easy fix; make contraception over the counter and problem solved. Medicaid shouldn’t be paying for this anyway.

 

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Suspect chillingly admits to crucifying elderly pastor, reveals Christian leader hit list in deranged jailhouse interview

Adam Christopher Sheafe, 51, confessed to crucifying William Schonemann, 76, and placing a crown of thorns on his head afterward. He has not yet been charged for the gruesome slaying.

nypost.com

A suspect accused by police of crucifying an elderly pastor in his Arizona home has given a chilling jailhouse interview confessing to his alleged crimes — and revealing a hit list of other targets across the country he reportedly planned to murder before he was caught.

Adam Christopher Sheafe, 51, confessed to killing 76-year-old William Schonemann, whose body was found in his bed covered in blood with his hands nailed to the wall on April 28, during an interview with Fox 10 News at the Coconino County Sheriff’s Office, where he is being held on charges unrelated to the killing of the beloved New River pastor.

 

[Huckleberry]

Suspect chillingly admits to crucifying elderly pastor, reveals Christian leader hit list in deranged jailhouse interview

Adam Christopher Sheafe, 51, confessed to crucifying William Schonemann, 76, and placing a crown of thorns on his head afterward. He has not yet been charged for the gruesome slaying.

nypost.com

“Christian, Catholic, Mormon. Anyone preaching that Jesus is God, essentially, the Trinity, a concept created by man, by Paul. He’s not God. God, the father alone, is God,” he said.

Asked whether he was ever victimized by a Christian, he replied no, and said his family is Christian and that he had a good childhood.

“I don’t hate Christians. I’m after the pastors that are leading them astray,” he said.




I have acquaintances on Facebook who express similar beliefs (not the killing part, of course).

 

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Suspect chillingly admits to crucifying elderly pastor, reveals Christian leader hit list in deranged jailhouse interview

Adam Christopher Sheafe, 51, confessed to crucifying William Schonemann, 76, and placing a crown of thorns on his head afterward. He has not yet been charged for the gruesome slaying.

nypost.com

Asking a psycho about his mental state of being is probably a wasted question. Crazy never thinks they're crazy; everyone else is.