The Decline of the DNC II

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Several Senate Democrats privately signal after lengthy closed-door lunch they expect that enough of their colleagues will vote to break a Democratic filibuster and let the House GOP stop-gap plan become law.

Everything is very fluid, so it's still unclear how this plays out and could change again.

But there's a growing belief that there will at least eight Dems who will vote to break a filibuster. Vote scheduled for tomorrow.

Schumer going to the floor soon to lay out his latest thinking.

Meantime, a warning from some Ds not to capitulate to the GOP demands, as they argue the CR is worse than a shutdown and would give Trump more power.

Booker: "This is saying, let's just give up even more of our Constitutional authority, because, hey, he can do a lot worse later on. And so to me, that's capitulating to someone who's already showing that he's reckless and willing to do a lot of destruction... We are in a perverse bizarro land where we're having to decide between letting Donald Trump wreck the government this way or wreck the government that way."




If they vote to break a filibuster, it will demonstrate the cowardice and lack of cohesive message that currently seems to afflict the Democratic Party.
 

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True.

He's thoroughly unqualified for the job, and it doesn't have anything at all to do with whom he shares a bed. A mayor of a city of about 100K people for eight years and a Cabinet position in a failed administration?

I know what you mean, of course, but that "asset" is the only reason he's even the cause celebre he is.

Truly amazing how now all of a sudden, "mayor of a small city" is considered seasoning to be President.
That ceased to be an issue in 2016
 
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Chuck Schumer will vote in favor of the GOP spending bill. How do democrats feel about this?



Maybe this was a no-win for Democrats. Schumer lays out his case here:

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Chuck Schumer: Why Democrats Must Keep the Government Open

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For sure, the Republican bill is a terrible option. It is deeply partisan. It doesn’t address this country’s needs. But even if the White House says differently, Mr. Trump and Elon Musk want a shutdown. We should not give them one. The risk of allowing the president to take even more power via a government shutdown is a much worse path.
 
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That ceased to be an issue in 2016
No, it didn't.

This is like saying, "Well, since this guy got away with murder, now murder is okay."

What's bizarre is the Democrats DO have several people who could at least be interesting, some who are accomplished, some who could seek higher office. Just to throw out a few names (whether I like the person or not is immaterial):

Gavin Newsome
Mark Kelly - Navy vet, astronaut, Senator
Jared Polis
Andy Beshear
JB Pritzker - I don't think he has much of a chance because, well, he's got Chris Christie Syndrome
Gretchen Whitmer
Tim Walz
Josh Shapiro - but probably out because he's Jewish (let's be blunt)
Jon Ossoff - IF he can get reelected, but I don't think he will
Elissa Slotkin
Amy Klobuchar
Cory Booker
Andy Kim

I'd consider every single one of these folks more qualified than Mayor Pete.

Again, I'm not picking on Buttigieg, but we're using the sliding Geraldine Ferraro scale here. Ferraro had been a three-term Queens Congresswoman when Walter Mondale dropped some acid, cranked up the Steely Dan and said, "Yeah, HER!" She was eminently unqualified for the job - there were literally dozens of MEN who had 2-4 times as many years in the House as she had whose name never came up as "that guy ought to be in the White House."

One of the things I've always loved and respected about Ferraro was she was HONEST (after the election, of course) about that whole thing. I watched her time and again admit she was chosen solely because she was a woman and for no other reason.

But the blue team needs to get past that. BOTH parties have deep benches if everyone would quit focusing on identity politics and "but what's his or her name."
 

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The Dems went full GOP, just like I knew they would. It’s not like they’ll lose any votes over this.
This whole fracas will be forgotten come November 2026.

The press spin on "Clinton outfoxed the GOP in the shutdown" created a phony world we still cannot escape. No, he didn't. The voters returned Clinton AND returned a Republican House and Senate a year after the 1995 shutdowns.

And it was during that shutdown that the White House was forced to use interns as help for furloughed federal workers, one of whom was named Monica Lewinsky. Anyone who thinks Clinton "won" the shutdown because the press said so must have turned the game off in the first half.
 

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That means he lost the votes and enough Dems caved.

weak. I’m done with these guys
Pretty soon you'll join those of us that are done with all of these weak idiots 'serving' us in DC...
With the realization that neither party has any intelligence, wisdom, or loyalty to anyone or anything but themselves and you wake up to discover that both sides suck:

 

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Need more like this. Less like Chuck who is worried about his corporate masters.
Some Republicans will pull this crap, too. Once the legislation has secured the votes, it becomes easy to make a conscience vote that accomplishes nothing, but definitely gives a little street rep for being willing to "stand up for the people." Maybe they mean it; maybe it's performative. The only real way to determine is to look at his or her voting history.
 
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Some Republicans will pull this crap, too. Once the legislation has secured the votes, it becomes easy to make a conscience vote that accomplishes nothing, but definitely gives a little street rep for being willing to "stand up for the people." Maybe they mean it; maybe it's performative. The only real way to determine is to look at his or her voting history.
All you had to do is say Susan Collins.
 

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U.S. Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) released the statement below on the Continuing Resolution.

“I support the thirty-day short-term extension to keep the government open to complete bipartisan negotiations on the actual budget. I will not support the partisan proposal in part because it does not include Minnesota infrastructure projects, undercuts medical care and research, and makes major changes to reduce veterans’ health care, including for those exposed to burn pits.”


Of course, it could be that Schumer has secured enough yes votes to cover for Democrats who need to vote no.
 

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