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no they aren’t. In fact they’re melting.
Which is funny given he visited AU 4 weeks in a row and the writing was practically on the wall.
The Freeze bus … keeps running over his QBs
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no they aren’t. In fact they’re melting.
Which is funny given he visited AU 4 weeks in a row and the writing was practically on the wall.
Yeah. He’s not expected to be the 2025 QB. That’s probably going to be a portal QB and right now the expectation is that Freeze is gonna wing bank at the best available this offseason.
That being said Hugh is a QB developer.
Depending on which posters you're reading. Many are relieved he's gone and were surprised their coaching staff allowed him to drag it on as long as he did.
the general tenor isn’t good. Lot of the usual sour grapes, and the insiders saying “this was coming that’s why we’re taking to other QBs”
they wanted this kid. Full stop. It’s a blow for them.
Exactly! I mean... I've been here for almost 6 weeks! Had another home board for 12 years that folded. Posted several thousand times there. This has been the first board I've come across that was similar in that peopel seem quite friendly here.
Lol!! Hugh is $$$ whisperer. Your fan base are upset he didn't go after a decent QB in the portal during the off season because Freeze was sticking with Thorne. And after the debacle with the Hank Brown experiment the roar got louder. If he's such a great developer, why are you guys playing QB musical chair in the first 5 games? How come he hasn't developed Walker who was more highly ranked than either Thorne and Brown. Where's Grenier who some of your fans think highly of??
Let's look at the quarterbacks who played for Rev Freeze when he was HC at his respected stints.
Malik Willis transferred from auburn to Liberty.
Chad Kelly transferred from Clemson, a community college, before ending up at Ole Miss.
Bo Wallace transferred from Arkansas st to Ole Miss. Bo follow him no doubt, but who did he developed at Ole Miss worth mentioning?
The 3 QBs I listed above are the three most decorated and known ones who played for Freeze. They also happen to be all transfers.
No doubt ND fans wanted a highly touted QB, but many were realistic he wasn't ready for a few more years and far from polished.
You are good people AUDub. I cannot say the same for Hugh Freeze. If he just has a bad season WL wise he will probably work himself into more time if the recruits stay committed. He cannot afford any extracurricular stuff, though. And he has to find a way to keep the team motivated and playing hard. This weekend may be a good barometer on that.
Unfortunately, Kirby may have some incentive to run the score up if he can. Lots of interesting subplots in Athens Saturday. Good luck.
Unfortunately, Kirby may have some incentive to run the score up if he can. Lots of interesting subplots in Athens Saturday. Good luck.
I still suspect he was right not to. I think Auburn still had too many holes to be a contender even with a stud QB like Cam Ward, who would have cost 1.5 million alone. Why pay that in a season where you don’t expect to be a contender when you have tons of need elsewhere? You can get a quality defensive front 7 alone for what Ward wanted.
It’s a sad reality that coaches actually have to budget these days, but that’s where we are now.
The Hank thing is, IMO, a major screw up on his part. Yeah Peyton had a bad game against Cal. I’ve seen nothing to indicate Hank would be better. And ultimately I think I was correct in that assessment. An *Arkansas* defense was too fast for him.
I think had we rolled with Thorne we’d have won the Arkansas game.
Walker White is a true freshman and running the scout team is the right place for him right now. He’s not ready. He’s literally in the midst of his first season D1 season and needs reps and development before he’s a D1 starter. You throw him out there now you more than likely stunt him.
I’ve personally never been high on Geriner. I think Hank is marginally better but that’s not saying much.
I think that he didn’t portal after he was third on the depth chart in his third season says a lot. He’s probably one of those destined to hold a clipboard.
Malik Willis developed into an NFL *starter* under Freeze. The magnitude of that can’t be understated.
Even when the “good Bo/bad Bo” meme was a thing everyone knew Hugh got more out of him than his talent level indicated.
Chad Kelly is a lunatic that was somehow a quality starter under Freeze.
Did you get a quality defensive front from the money that you didn't spend on Cam Ward? I have no idea, I'm just asking. The problem that I see with this logic is that today's game and especially with a system like Freeze runs, the QB is by far the most important piece of it. A QB like Cam Ward can make the rest of team look better than they actually are. If AU had a good QB, but not Cam Newton, in 2010, how many games would they have won that year?
But if you remove all the INTs isn't there an argument that awbarn could well be 5-0 now?
if if’s and but’s were candy and nuts, then s.n.a.s.s.
Yeah. Against the easiest part of the schedule. At home and favored in all of them. Now we are hitting the meat of the schedule, starting with UGA tomorrow. I don’t expect it to be good.
When I played, we went undefeated every season ... if you removed all the points every opponent scored. In fact, if you remove every point every other team could have scored, we would have beaten every other team nine times out of nine.
Things that don't create good teams and chemistry:
-Head coach throwing players under the bus to the media
-Multiple tiers of NIL money to some underserving players
-Losing but not focusing on making corrections but instead focusing on who we need to bring in
-QB controversy
-Fanbase who doesn't have a grasp on reality and adds extra pressure to players and staff
-Coaches who have big ego's and don't take accountability
I could go on but that is enough for now. As much as I appreciate your optimism AUDub, and I truly feel like Aubarn would not only be more likeable but in a better place if more fans had your POV. Aubarn is in a dark place right now and it isn't getting any better anytime soon. The boosters will eventually have to be pried away from the decision making within the program or it will continue to be a carousel of mediocrity and hiring/firing HC's. The recruiting rankings give you a glimmer of hope currently but with today's world of NIL and transfer portal it isn't a given you will get to see these kids that are currently committed play later in their career at Aubarn and it definitely isn't a given that they will actually sign. Kids today don't want to play for a sinking ship program and you can only tell them we are "rebuilding" for so long before the talk among them will be "man they trash".
-Head coach throwing players under the bus to the media
-Multiple tiers of NIL money to some underserving players
-Losing but not focusing on making corrections but instead focusing on who we need to bring in
-QB controversy
-Fanbase who doesn't have a grasp on reality and adds extra pressure to players and staff
-Coaches who have big ego's and don't take accountability
I could go on but that is enough for now. As much as I appreciate your optimism AUDub, and I truly feel like Aubarn would not only be more likeable but in a better place if more fans had your POV. Aubarn is in a dark place right now and it isn't getting any better anytime soon. The boosters will eventually have to be pried away from the decision making within the program or it will continue to be a carousel of mediocrity and hiring/firing HC's. The recruiting rankings give you a glimmer of hope currently but with today's world of NIL and transfer portal it isn't a given you will get to see these kids that are currently committed play later in their career at Aubarn and it definitely isn't a given that they will actually sign. Kids today don't want to play for a sinking ship program and you can only tell them we are "rebuilding" for so long before the talk among them will be "man they trash".
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While we are on the subject, I have always liked Texas Tech. I am thinking about joining one of their boards and adopting them as my fav Big 12 team. That is if I can find a family friendly site, which I doubt.
This class is loaded to the gills with IDL and edges.
That 2010 Auburn team was probably a 9 win team without Cam. It was a fairly weak team but it did have some strengths, notably in the trenches. The offensive line had guys like Lee Ziemba and Ryan Pugh, and the defensive line had guys like Fairley and Antoine Carter.
Not even close. Lets dive in shall we.
With Cam Newton:
-Beat Mississippi State 17-14
-Beat Clemson 27-24 in OT
-Beat South Carolina 35-27
-Beat Kentucky 37-34
-Beat LSU 24-17
-Beat Alabama 28-27
-Beat Oregon 22-19
To say they would win 9 wins is a huge huge stretch. Obviously who replaced Cam would be a major factor in that but lets just say for the sake of argument that it was an average to above average guy. Most of those games mentioned above would have been a loss.
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