Blog: The Impending Obama Meltdown

[bayoutider]

Well I can relate Re Bush, but it's one thing to have hope for the US and another to insist that some politician be granted carte blanche, especially when you disagree with that politicians philosophies.

I don't think anyone should be given carte blanche but I do think the president should be given more than a couple of weeks. I didn't vote for either Bush and gave them more than two weeks before I blasted them. I agree with the other poster that some here just have a hateful political tone in all their posts. I think they would make good revolutionists, probably be shot within three days but make a lot of noise.

 

[DiamondDust]

So to criticize Obama's administration is to hate America. Got it.

Well, that was the operating line throughout the recent Bush administration.

 

[Ark-Tider]

The Obama Administration may be just what this country needed. I did not vote for him and I do not agree with his policies but at very least this transition has exposed a lot of politicians for what they really are. Future politicians will think hard before cheating on taxes, pork spending and special interest. One way to look at this is Americans have decided to audit the government much like the IRS audits taxpayers. What's so un-American about that?

 

[Jack Bourbon]

Well, that was the operating line throughout the recent Bush administration.

The US-hate accusations were directed at those who acted like Bush was the second coming of Hitler and the Iraq invasion was a genocide perpetrated by American soldiers. It's fine to oppose a war one disagrees with, but there is a line at which point people start to subvert their own military.

Regardless, it's unreasonable to expect people to overlook the missteps by Obama and his political crowd, when they are so obvious. It'd be one thing to be overly critical for only political reasons, but Obama is really looking shaky based on matters of basic competence--four appointees with tax problems, the apology to the middle east, the worthless pork in the huge bill that is supposed to be sooooo critical to our surviving imminent doom.

If Bush's administration had started like this, would it have been reasonable to ask people to ignore these problems? Of course not.

Given how hateful many people were to the Bush administration (from day 1 on, if you'll remember), it's a lot to expect everyone to give Obama a free pass. This is politics we're talking about, after all. Not everyone is as optimistic about Obama's and his beliefs as those who campaigned for him.

 

[Crimson Speed]

The Obama Administration may be just what this country needed. I did not vote for him and I do not agree with his policies but at very least this transition has exposed a lot of politicians for what they really are. Future politicians will think hard before cheating on taxes, pork spending and special interest. One way to look at this is Americans have decided to audit the government much like the IRS audits taxpayers. What's so un-American about that?

I'm not so sure. Long sentences in the slammer will deter such tax cheating, but these guys get a slap on the wrist and keep on keeping on.
Likewise, government self audits are like the fox watching the chicken house. This especially applies with an administration packed with corruption at the highest levels of government.

I'm still open minded enough to give Obama a chance to succeed. If he helps the nation, we will all be better for it. The task ahead is overpowering for him or anyone else. The problem stems more from the stench of the entire federal government than from just the president. But, I think his chances of great success are greatly diminished by his poor choices for close advisors and supporting staff. With this group, it will come as no surprise if Obama spends much of his time being distracted with damage control from multiple scandals.

 

[formersoldier71]

I'm going to give The One more than two weeks to try to clean up the 8 years of domestic/foreign policy mess that nobody around here seems to want to take responsibility (they all voted LIBERTARIAN, remember? :biggrin: ) for.

Nope. Constitution Party last two elections.

 

[Jack Bourbon]

Constitution party? Sounds boring.

 

[Ark-Tider]

Long sentences in the slammer will deter such tax cheating, but these guys get a slap on the wrist and keep on keeping on. I'm still open minded enough to give Obama a chance to succeed. If he helps the nation, we will all be better for it.

I started off by giving my kids wrist slaps and eventually progressed to good ole fashioned whippings. We gotta start somewhere. I agree on the part of giving Obama a chance to succeed.

 

[bayoutider]

Given how hateful many people were to the Bush administration (from day 1 on, if you'll remember), it's a lot to expect everyone to give Obama a free pass. This is politics we're talking about, after all. Not everyone is as optimistic about Obama's and his beliefs as those who campaigned for him.

How was that different from the way the Clinton administration was treated by the Republicans? Tit for tat Jack but it needs to stop somewhere. Seems like since the internet it's either the new guys fault or the last guys fault and it's more important to highlight faults than give any support.

 

[Jack Bourbon]

That's another reason I don't like politics. It is a big ****ing contest. But it is what it is.

Bottom line, when a president makes mistakes, it is not wrong to criticize him in a reasonable manner. No matter who or how adored he is.

 

[It's On A Slab]

How was that different from the way the Clinton administration was treated by the Republicans? Tit for tat Jack but it needs to stop somewhere. Seems like since the internet it's either the new guys fault or the last guys fault and it's more important to highlight faults than give any support.

The right always seems to suck up to the guy who's making the most noise and is consistently wrong (hello, Bill Kristol?).

As it is with the Hon. Victor David Hanson:

For example, here is Victor Davis Hanson (pictured) in National Review, today, in a post that's making the blogospheric rounds:

We are quite literally after two weeks teetering on an Obama implosion—and with no Dick Morris to bail him out—brought on by messianic delusions of grandeur, hubris, and a strange naivete that soaring rhetoric and a multiracial profile can add requisite cover to good old-fashioned Chicago politicking.
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Here's Victor Davis Hanson in National Review, September 2008:

No Northern Democratic liberal like Obama has won the presidency in a half-century...The new Obama probably will recover from his temporary setback in the polls. But right now his problem is that disappointed independent voters are catching on that this saintly savior is all too human.
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Here's Victor David Hanson in National Review, March 2008:

Barack Obama is on his way to a McGovern candidacy.
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Here's Victor Davis Hanson in National Review, March 2008 (again):

Obama is crashing in all the polls, especially against McCain, against whom he doesn’t stack up well, given McCain’s heroic narrative, the upswing in Iraq, and the past distance between McCain and the Bush administration.
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Predicting a president's doom is a high-risk game. Or it would be, if pundits were held as accountable as, say, cabinet nominees.


Wouldn't Spiro Agnew call this clown a 'nattering nabob of negativism'?

 

[ValuJet]

Agnew's exact quote:

"In the United States today, we have more than our share of the nattering nabobs of negativism. They have formed their own 4-H Club -- the "hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history."

This was actually written by William Safire, who was a speechwriter for Nixon and Agnew at the time, and credited to Agnew since he said it.

Don't ask me why I took the time to look that up. Maybe because the "nattering" barb is one of my all time favorites, along with "We begin bombing in five minutes" and "That depends on what the meaning of the word is is."

And my absolute favorite, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me - we won't get fooled again."

 

[bat123]

Tsk, Tsk maybe oBama can get a portable teleprompter to carry around with him.......

I am not at all surprised at the total imcompetance of this guy, it started with a political payoff to Hill and Bill and has gone down hill from there.

I wouldn't be a tiny bit surprised if a few embarassing skeletons fall out of the Chicago closet either.

I have always been a believer in you get what you vote for, and hey with the new stimulus package we might just save the honey bees.
_lol:_lol:

 

[Tide n True]

Barack Obama = Lane Kiffin

 

[bat123]

Barack Obama = Lane Kiffin

Yeah if we could just get him to change his name to Barack Oauburn.......

 

[BamaInBham]

I wish the best for Pres Obama. I am apolitical and usually don't pay much attention to politics, but was interested in Obama and read a little about him. What I found was disconcerting. I'm not surprised at what has happened and know that it could degenerate into tragedy. I saw this link on another site and posted it not so much for the author's opinion but for the facts that he listed which reveal a lot. The president's foreign affairs performance has been embarrassing and dangerous. That is hardly debatable. His response to the economy, who's woes are of course not of his doing, has been worse than that his predecessor, which was bad enough. Only time will tell on that.

The country is in deep trouble and IMO, Obama's performance, which is consistent with what one familiar with him would have expected, is not encouraging. I wish him well and hope he changes course, but hardly expect it.

 

[Tidewater]

The guy's been in office no more than two weeks, and the right-wing is in such a tizzy that Kleenex and hand lotion are on permanent backorder.

Note to NR: The ghost of Bill Buckley left that bldg a long time ago. Sadly.

Victor Davis Hanson represents the entire line of snap-on tools.

 

[Bamaro]

Its funny, the right has had to bite their tongues so long that their heads were about to explode. Now they can finally let it all out.

 

[rolltidescott]

How was that different from the way the Clinton administration was treated by the Republicans? Tit for tat Jack but it needs to stop somewhere. Seems like since the internet it's either the new guys fault or the last guys fault and it's more important to highlight faults than give any support.

Why did this post immediately make me think of Monica? (Clinton was too busy playing with interns to take Bin Laden when he was offered to us...)

 

[bayoutider]

Why did this post immediately make me think of Monica? (Clinton was too busy playing with interns to take Bin Laden when he was offered to us...)

Oh please that incident always comes out like it was his entire 8 years. Try some fresh material.