The policy and politics of Trumpism

[Jon]

Just heard a bit of Nikki Haley's comments at the UN acting as a shill for Netanyahu. Is it as simple as the fact that Ivanka converted to Judaism that we abandon our Middle Eastern policy that has essentially been in place since WW ll? The western Europeans must think we have gone completely mad after they connived and schemed for influence in the Middle East since the Crusades. The Brits in particular must spit up in their tea after following us to Iraq and Afghanistan to see us conduct ourselves as rank amateurs in such a strategic part of the world for them.

this is the Evangelicals at work it has nothing to do with Ivanka, it has been a fever dream of theirs for generations

 

[92tide]

this is the Evangelicals at work it has nothing to do with Ivanka, it has been a fever dream of theirs for generations

its a great deal for the israelis, they just have to make the correct choice or be damned for eternity.

 

[Jon]

I would say the Conservative movement should be ashamed but I no longer think that they possess any shame at all

http://theweek.com/articles/756328/conservatives-are-now-attacking-survivors-school-shootings

But slavish hero-worship of Trump and furious pummeling of anyone who criticizes him are now the basic operating principles of conservative politics. So like some truth-resistant outbreak of flesh-eating mold, conservatives started attacking the kids by invoking their previous conspiracy theory about the FBI. There was the aforementioned Wintrich story, shared thousands of times on Facebook and Twitter (Donald Trump, Jr. liked two tweets mentioning it), while another story insinuated that Hogg wasn't even a survivor. Meanwhile, on CNN, former GOP congressman Jack Kingston accused the survivors of being George Soros plants. InfoWars founder Alex Jones has suggested that the entire massacre was a "false flag" hoax, just as he did with Sandy Hook.

Bill O'Reilly, the disgraced former Fox News anchor, sounded almost reasonable when he suggested the survivors merely have an unreliable perspective due to supposed "extreme peer pressure."

That's the modern conservative movement for you. Every political faction has its blind spots, its hypocrisies, and its inconvenient facts that tend to be ignored. But the Republican Party is far and away the most intellectually diseased of any major party in the industrialized world. Any political problem they face is immediately deluged with a frenzy of unhinged nutcase brain slop. Climate change? Hoax. Inflation staying stubbornly low? Hoax. Polls looking bad? Unskew! President breathtakingly corrupt? FBI hoax.

The old John Bircher theory that President Eisenhower was a secret communist seems almost quaint by comparison with today's attacks on kids who are still burying their slain classmates.

and yes, every party has some despicable nutbags but they don't all have the deplorables that wear it as a badge

 

[92tide]

I would say the Conservative movement should be ashamed but I no longer think that they possess any shame at all

http://theweek.com/articles/756328/conservatives-are-now-attacking-survivors-school-shootings




and yes, every party has some despicable nutbags but they don't all have the deplorables that wear it as a badge

talk radio ftw

 

[Crimson1967]

Unfortunately those can't be posted here for language reasons.

His f-bombs don’t add anything to his monologues. It’s like he’s doing just because he can. I’m no prude, but I wish he’d dial it back a bit.


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[rgw]

https://twitter.com/abc/status/966136262053826560

https://twitter.com/abc/status/966137511499190272

MSNBC is truly neoliberalism personified

 

[AUDub]

talk radio ftw

 

[deliveryman35]

It may be a century before a Republican pulls off Wisconsin and Minnesota again. The numbers are not there regardless of how rabid the Trumpies are in the hinterlands.

Trump didn’t win Minnesota. In fact, it’s also the only state that never voted for Reagan.

 

[UAH]

https://twitter.com/abc/status/966136262053826560

https://twitter.com/abc/status/966137511499190272
MSNBC is truly neoliberalism personified

Yes MSNBC isn't much different than Fox. They are seeking to appeal to an audience. The audience demographics may be different but in the end they are pitching products for corporations. I honestly don't get Glenn Greenwald or Max Blumenthal. They seem to find a conspiracy behind every event that occurs in the world.

 

[UAH]

Trump didn’t win Minnesota. In fact, it’s also the only state that never voted for Reagan.

Yes my bad for writing without going back and researching what actually happened in the mid west.

 

[92tide]

Yes MSNBC isn't much different than Fox. They are seeking to appeal to an audience. The audience demographics may be different but in the end they are pitching products for corporations. I honestly don't get Glenn Greenwald or Max Blumenthal. They seem to find a conspiracy behind every event that occurs in the world.

$$$

 

[92tide]

https://twitter.com/abc/status/734231223002894337

 

[92tide]

https://twitter.com/abc/status/966444573374472197

 

[CharminTide]

https://twitter.com/abc/status/966444573374472197

Our president requires a handwritten reminder to show basic human decency. I hate that this doesn't surprise or shock me anymore.

On the plus side, it reminded me of this:

http://www.tedcruzforhumanpresident.com/

 

[CharminTide]

Watch Devin Nunes, the chairman of the intelligence committee investigating Russian propaganda in our election, directly ask Russian operatives to disseminate propaganda to Americans.

https://twitter.com/abc/status/[LEFT][COLOR=#14171A][FONT="Segoe UI"]https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/966318608182779904[/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT]

 

[2003TIDE]

Our president requires a handwritten reminder to show basic human decency. I hate that this doesn't surprise or shock me anymore.

On the plus side, it reminded me of this:

http://www.tedcruzforhumanpresident.com/

Trump -

I hear you. I am going to eliminate gun-free zones and arm teachers

I'll take "Things that can't end well" for $100 Alex

 

[rgw]

Yes MSNBC isn't much different than Fox. They are seeking to appeal to an audience. The audience demographics may be different but in the end they are pitching products for corporations. I honestly don't get Glenn Greenwald or Max Blumenthal. They seem to find a conspiracy behind every event that occurs in the world.

In my opinion, he's not seeing a conspiracy, he's just one to call what is sort of obscured in the deluge of crap around the truth within media today.


I mean, it isn't Greenwald's fault that Maddow is basically reading Russian sounding names out of the phonebook while wearing a tinfoil hat.

 

[Jon]

Trump -

I'll take "Things that can't end well" for $100 Alex

we won't even pay for ink cartridges and basic school supplies now we are going to arm and train teachers? These people are insane

 

[UAH]

In my opinion, he's not seeing a conspiracy, he's just one to call what is sort of obscured in the deluge of crap around the truth within media today.
I mean, it isn't Greenwald's fault that Maddow is basically reading Russian sounding names out of the phonebook while wearing a tinfoil hat.

I watch Greenwald frequently on Democracy Now from Rio and Max Blumenthal on The Real News. I don't quite know how to characterize their views except as hyper critical of all things political. I became very suspect of The Intercept, Greenwald's news network when they gave up their source leading to the young woman in the NSA being jailed without bail. So my attitude toward Greenwald has developed over time. Just as a quick example .. he attempted to attribute blame for Dilma's ouster in Brazil on the Obama administration which was an overreach to at least some degree.

 

[2003TIDE]

we won't even pay for ink cartridges and basic school supplies now we are going to arm and train teachers? These people are insane

Yeah. Last thing I'd want are a bunch of teachers carrying. I'd like to see the teacher's union reaction when teacher workshops are replaced with range time and certification.