The policy and politics of Trumpism

[92tide]

we won't even pay for ink cartridges and basic school supplies now we are going to arm and train teachers? These people are insane

i can't wait to hear the justifications given for arming hundreds of thousands of additional government employees. i'm sure it has something to do with preventing tyranny.

 

[CharminTide]

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[92tide]

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the new face of gun rights advocacy

 

[CharminTide]

the new face of gun rights advocacy

"I never said give teachers guns. What I said was to look at the possibility of giving concealed guns to gun adept teachers."

Amazing.

 

[92tide]

"I never said give teachers guns. What I said was to look at the possibility of giving concealed guns to gun adept teachers."

Amazing.

20% of teachers multiplied by all schools in the us. that's a massive number.

i'm sure erik prince is salivating at the business opportunity

 

[Jon]

20% of teachers multiplied by all schools in the us. that's a massive number.

i'm sure erik prince is salivating at the business opportunity

google is awesome

The National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) projected that a little over 3.6 million teachers are employed in public and private elementary and secondary schools in 2007-2008. For more information, please click here.

20% is 710,000 teachers to be trained and armed

according to this the average police officer spends 60 hours a year on firearm training, that is a lot of overtime for teachers

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/7/12118906/police-training-mediation

I also saw that the average for hitting the target in a gun fight for NYPD was around 34%

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/nyregion/08nypd.html

if we can get teachers that good (and we can't) they are missing their target 2/3 shots fired. So what will we be hitting, in schools

 

[TIDE-HSV]

"I never said give teachers guns. What I said was to look at the possibility of giving concealed guns to gun adept teachers."

Amazing.

When I first heard that phrase "alternative facts," I had no idea of the quantity and quality...

 

[92tide]

google is awesome



20% is 710,000 teachers to be trained and armed

according to this the average police officer spends 60 hours a year on firearm training, that is a lot of overtime for teachers

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/7/12118906/police-training-mediation

I also saw that the average for hitting the target in a gun fight for NYPD was around 34%

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/nyregion/08nypd.html

if we can get teachers that good (and we can't) they are missing their target 2/3 shots fired. So what will we be hitting, in schools

at least they will be taught the proper terminology for the firearms they will be carrying.

i wonder where they will keep the guns and ammo during non-school hours.

 

[92tide]

When I first heard that phrase "alternative facts," I had no idea of the quantity and quality...

a motivated con-man (or con-people) only has to look at the listenership data for talk radio over the past couple of decades to see that there was a large number of folks ripe for the picking

 

[Jon]

at least they will be taught the proper terminology for the firearms they will be carrying.

i wonder where they will keep the guns and ammo during non-school hours.

based on my buddy Dave that is a highschool math teacher in atlanta the answer for him will be "not in my house"

 

[2003TIDE]

Concealed carry for teachers is probably the most idiotic thing I've every heard. There is a reason LEO's carry AR's now. They tried bringing handguns to an AR fight before and it didn't work out so well for them.

 

[92tide]

Concealed carry for teachers is probably the most idiotic thing I've every heard. There is a reason LEO's carry AR's now. They tried bringing handguns to an AR fight before and it didn't work out so well for them.

the gop - hey 2003, hold mah beer

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Where is the groundswell of teachers eager to be armed?

 

[MattinBama]

Where is the groundswell of teachers eager to be armed?

I think they're all too busy fending off wild bear attacks with sticks to speak up.

 

[Jon]

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Here is a type of article which is unhelpful in advancing the dialog. This writer, apparently a radiologist is confusing type of cartridge with type of firearm. He does admit he's only seen a few "AR" wounds...

Atlantic

 

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I’m half surprised he didn’t just pass it off on Devos

 

[jthomas666]

I’m half surprised he didn’t just pass it off on Devos

I'm more amused that he basically said "I didn't say 'give teachers guns', I said 'give SOME teachers guns'".

 

[92tide]

I'm more amused that he basically said "I didn't say 'give teachers guns', I said 'give SOME teachers guns'".

it's pretty sad how little effort he has to put forth to fool his supporters.

 

[CajunCrimson]

it's pretty sad how little effort he has to put forth to annoy liberals.

FIFY

Seriously though -- this school had what 3-4K students? Shouldn't there be at least a half dozen people on the premises with weapons? At least one per building....