BREAKING Three Shot, One Killed At Dallas ICE

[DzynKingRTR]

Ok, so allegedly we have anti-ICE comments on the bullets, but he killed two detainees.

Is this guy going to turn out to be...a really bad shot?

That was my thought. They keep using the word "sniper" over and over because movies tell us sniper means awesome marksman.

 

[Its On A Slab]

I hate what ICE is doing rounding up immigrants.

Im going to go take up arms against ICE.

I go and shoot several detainees.

Really? This doesn't pass the smell test. And I am starting to agree with Steve Bannon(for the 1st time). Those text msgs from the Kirk shooter are highly suspect. The language used in those texts are not Gen Z/gamers speak.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

That was my thought. They keep using the word "sniper" over and over because movies tell us sniper means awesome marksman.

Well, as you know, the word itself just means somebody who shoots anyone else from a hiding place, but yes, normally we associate that word with......well, accuracy.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

I hate what ICE is doing rounding up immigrants.

Im going to go take up arms against ICE.

I go and shoot several detainees.

Really? This doesn't pass the smell test. And I am starting to agree with Steve Bannon(for the 1st time). Those text msgs from the Kirk shooter are highly suspect. The language used in those texts are not Gen Z/gamers speak.

Jimmy Dore was talking about this last week. He said those text messages sounded like total exposition to him. I have to admit, it sounds that way to me as well.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Really? This doesn't pass the smell test. And I am starting to agree with Steve Bannon(for the 1st time). Those text msgs from the Kirk shooter are highly suspect. The language used in those texts are not Gen Z/gamers speak.

Here's the thing:
I retain a level of suspicion about anything said by THIS FBI. I know politicians lie but the current leader has shown more temerity to just MSU (make stuff up) than ANY politician I've ever known. Nixon wasn't like this, LBJ wasn't like this. My God, even Clinton wasn't like this.

What I'm sick of from - I'll say it - both sides at this point is how every damn thing in the world has to be part of the non-stop political wars. It does not matter to me if the Kirk shooter was a right-winger who felt he was too tolerant, a left-winger who thinks he was too intolerant, or an incel playing a live video game as far as the fact of the crime. I don't care if he killed Charlie Kirk because he rejected his passes in the men's room, wouldn't purchase a time share from him, or stole his side piece. He killed him, the end as far as the fact of the crime. Take him out back after trial and hang his miserable behind.

But the rush to persuade with narrative in that particular case, jeez.

You may be right on the Gen Z speak.
But maybe not, too.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Jimmy Dore was talking about this last week. He said those text messages sounded like total exposition to him. I have to admit, it sounds that way to me as well.

I agree on this.

That doesn't mean it's wrong, it may betray guilt.

 

[Its On A Slab]

Jimmy Dore was talking about this last week. He said those text messages sounded like total exposition to him. I have to admit, it sounds that way to me as well.

And I have no doubt he's the guy that pulled the trigger. But those text msgs could have easily been written by 19th century romantic authors. And many of the terms he allegedly used aren't in anyone's everyday vernacular. If it was a Gen Z text, there would be abbreviations, etc.

 

[92tide]

I hate what ICE is doing rounding up immigrants.

Im going to go take up arms against ICE.

I go and shoot several detainees.

Really? This doesn't pass the smell test. And I am starting to agree with Steve Bannon(for the 1st time). Those text msgs from the Kirk shooter are highly suspect. The language used in those texts are not Gen Z/gamers speak.

you mean they don’t voice their displeasure over i.c.e. by using phrases like “anti-ice”?

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Here's the thing:
I retain a level of suspicion about anything said by THIS FBI. I know politicians lie but the current leader has shown more temerity to just MSU (make stuff up) than ANY politician I've ever known. Nixon wasn't like this, LBJ wasn't like this. My God, even Clinton wasn't like this.

What I'm sick of from - I'll say it - both sides at this point is how every damn thing in the world has to be part of the non-stop political wars. It does not matter to me if the Kirk shooter was a right-winger who felt he was too tolerant, a left-winger who thinks he was too intolerant, or an incel playing a live video game as far as the fact of the crime. I don't care if he killed Charlie Kirk because he rejected his passes in the men's room, wouldn't purchase a time share from him, or stole his side piece. He killed him, the end as far as the fact of the crime. Take him out back after trial and hang his miserable behind.

But the rush to persuade with narrative in that particular case, jeez.

You may be right on the Gen Z speak.
But maybe not, too.

We've made this more important than the murder itself. The bottom line is, an innocent man was publicly murdered in broad daylight because he expressed his beliefs. That is the most important thing.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

@FBIDallas and FBI HQ have been working 24/7 to seize devices, exploit data, and process writings obtained on location and in the subject's person/residence/bedroom. This @FBI is committed to providing timely updates, as promised:

- The perp downloaded a document titled "Dallas County Office of Homeland Security & Emergency Management" containing a list of DHS facilities.

- He conducted multiple searches of ballistics and the "Charlie Kirk Shot Video" between 9/23-9/24.
-Between 8/19-8/24, he searched apps that tracked the presence of ICE agents.

- One of the handwritten notes recovered read, "Hopefully this will give ICE agents real terror, to think, 'is there a sniper with AP rounds on that roof?"

- Further accumulated evidence to this point indicates a high degree of pre-attack planning.

The FBI will provide further updates when able.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1971213954123751822

Assuming this is true, this clearly was not an impulsive act.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Assuming this is true, this clearly was not an impulsive act.

That's all fine and good.

But since I've been told for the last 8 years or more by the current President that I cannot believe something the FBI says and have ALSO seen that the current director is prone to conspiracy theories, let's have a better source than, you know, the "can't believe them FBI boys" and a tin foil hat wearing Hindu who thinks Charlie Kirk is going to see him in pagan paradise.

THIS RIGHT HERE is why our institutions matter. They're human and they screw up.
That's different from thorough corruption.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

That's all fine and good.

But since I've been told for the last 8 years or more by the current President that I cannot believe something the FBI says and have ALSO seen that the current director is prone to conspiracy theories, let's have a better source than, you know, the "can't believe them FBI boys" and a tin foil hat wearing Hindu who thinks Charlie Kirk is going to see him in pagan paradise.

THIS RIGHT HERE is why our institutions matter. They're human and they screw up.
That's different from thorough corruption.

Fair enough. My position on the FBI hasn't shifted one iota. I haven't trusted them since I was in my early 20's. Which oddly enough was around the time the X-Files came out. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

Here is something I am willing to admit to: when Patel was tapped to head the FBI, I had a small, glimmering hope that at some point, he would restore my trust in this institution. He hasn't. For some, the weirdness has ramped up to an eleven, but to me, it just looks like business as usual.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Which oddly enough was around the time the X-Files came out. I'm sure that's just a coincidence

I would definitely trust any FBI agent that looked like Scully.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

I would definitely trust any FBI agent that looked like Scully.

Especially if strip-searches were involved.

 

[AWRTR]

Growing up in the Southern Baptist church, I always wondered why a Baptist would frown when he/she was smiling. It was like God was going to punish them for being happy.

It always seemed like anything that was fun was evil. At least with them.

Not sure what SBC church you went to, but my experience was totally the opposite. There are a few sticks in the mud anywhere you go, but I was cared for, loved, and encouraged. Some of my best memories was the fun I had at church.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Fair enough. My position on the FBI hasn't shifted one iota. I haven't trusted them since I was in my early 20's. Which oddly enough was around the time the X-Files came out. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

Here is something I am willing to admit to: when Patel was tapped to head the FBI, I had a small, glimmering hope that at some point, he would restore my trust in this institution. He hasn't. For some, the weirdness has ramped up to an eleven, but to me, it just looks like business as usual.

Again, I'm not saying he's lying.

I'm saying it wouldn't surprise me if we find out in the future he is.

Donald Trump forever lost me (on honesty governance) when he sent Sidney Powell out to fire off the most insane election conspiracy in the history of man. When I first heard it, I figured "there HAS to be something to this since it's not JUST Trump, so this'll be interesting." But then, she produced nothing but accusations, just like her boss.

Most of Trump's actions in governing over the previous four years - for better or worse - fell into the category of hardball politics, political hypocrisy, or "stuff folks have always done even though we didn't know about it" (nobody is ever going to convince me Nixon was the first guy to engage in a criminal cover-up, he was just the first one stupid enough to get caught on tape talking about it).

So while under "norms" we have the spectacle of a carnival barker simpleton upholding Ukraine aid asking for a server to spy on Biden, yeah it's criminal but we all know that stuff has always gone on. YES, Trump did downplay Covid - but then again, Democrats over-exaggerated almost everything about it, too (hint: "we will have to shut down for the rest of the year" in March 2020 by Democratic governors really meant, "until after the Election, to give us a better chance to win"). Again, politics and yuck.

He's now holding the equivalent of a loyalty oath, and while the FBI has hardly always been a bastion of justice and impartiality, it has still spoken with authority. I would never have thought (for example) that Louis Freeh would have covered up for Clinton.


The current President has made it crystal clear that he's the Sanchez character from "Licence to Kill" - you will be loyal first and foremost to Donald Trump and keep his tail out of jail by all means necessary.

Expecting such a guy to lie is, well, expected.

 

[75thru79]

This doesn't pass the smell test.

What doesn't pass the smell test is the idea that some brilliant cabal of Republican operatives were able to pull something like this off. They just happened to find a complete loser that they could convince to climb on top of a roof, shoot wildly into a crowd at an ICE detention facility and then commit suicide immediately thereafter.

 

[crimsonaudio]

What doesn't pass the smell test is the idea that some brilliant cabal of Republican operatives were able to pull something like this off. They just happened to find a complete loser that they could convince to climb on top of a roof, shoot wildly into a crowd at an ICE detention facility and then commit suicide immediately thereafter.

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[Its On A Slab]

What doesn't pass the smell test is the idea that some brilliant cabal of Republican operatives were able to pull something like this off. They just happened to find a complete loser that they could convince to climb on top of a roof, shoot wildly into a crowd at an ICE detention facility and then commit suicide immediately thereafter.

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Agreed. But I'm talking more about the way Kash Patel seems to always want to spin something based upon an agenda. Those bullet casings looked like a ham-fisted attempt by a bunch of Keystone Kops(otherwise known as Kash Patel's FBI).

I find it hard to believe anything this guy says.

 

[75thru79]

Agreed. But I'm talking more about the way Kash Patel seems to always want to spin something based upon an agenda. Those bullet casings looked like a ham-fisted attempt by a bunch of Keystone Kops(otherwise known as Kash Patel's FBI).

I find it hard to believe anything this guy says.

I am extremely disappointed that the FBI has become politicized. First, you had those two agents that decided it was their moral obligation to use their power to stop Trump from being elected in 2016 to the slimeball "I love to play with seashells" Comey. Now we've got some hack in there who's only qualification is he's willing to use the FBI to prosecute people who have "wronged" Trump. If there was ever a governmental agency that needed to be politically agnostic then it is the FBI.