Trump Attacks Iran, II

[Bazza]

Well… that would be a first.

Not disagreeing or even trying to start any kind of debate.

We are in a different place these days wrt how warfare is waged. Much more technology than ever before and much of it using drones and other aerial methods. So I can't blame anyone who doesn't wish to put boots on the ground unless necessary.

That said......who ever saw this kind of event happening? Isn't this the first time a nation as powerful as we are makes the decision to effect drastic change against a terrorist state like Iran?

Seems like we are - and have been - in uncharted waters since day 1. At this point it seems all bets are off on what will happen.

And FWIW.....the IDF has already deployed troops in Lebanon. So we'll see....who knows?

Israel says 'limited' ground operations have begun in Lebanon

Troops are targeting "Hezbollah strongholds" in south Lebanon, where strikes reportedly killed nine people on Monday.

www.bbc.com

Israeli media reported that three Israeli divisions - amounting to thousands of troops - were now operating in southern Lebanon, with two more due to join them in the next few days.
The ground operations are a new blow to Lebanese sovereignty and will stoke fears of a prolonged Israeli occupation.
On Saturday, US news site Axios reported that Israel was "aiming to seize the entire area south of the Litani river", which is about 30km (20 miles) from the Israeli border.

 

[Its On A Slab]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2033981814587417055

Nowruz(Persian New Year) is this weekend. We are going to a big Azerbaijani party in Chicago this weekend.

 

[crimsonaudio]

A major success for America and Israel. Reports of the successful targeting and destruction of an underground Iranian facility for storing missiles using bunker-busting bombs near the Strait of Hormuz. More than 200 stored ballistic missiles there turned to ash.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2034135475821158437

 

[crimsonaudio]

Between civilians reporting positions of officials and fighters to the IDF and these types of revolutionary attacks, we may be seeing the beginning of real change. Hopeful.

More and more reports of drive-by shooting attacks against Basij militia checkpoints in Iran.The regime is under pressure and more and more Basij militia members are refusing to show up for work in the morning.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2034261669082259753

 

[crimsonaudio]

BREAKING : Israeli Defense Minister Katz says major surprises are expected today on all fronts, escalating the war to a new level. He says the IDF has been authorized to eliminate any Iranian official once the “targeting circle” is closed, without further approval.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2034221905239273661

 

[cdub55]

Hours ago, U.S. forces successfully employed multiple 5,000-pound deep penetrator munitions on hardened Iranian missile sites along Iran’s coastline near the Strait of Hormuz. The Iranian anti-ship cruise missiles in these sites posed a risk to international shipping in the strait.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2034040698954031326

https://twitter.com/x/status/2034050122221269434

 

[selmaborntidefan]

It’s a crying’ shame the kid from “Iron Eagle” got killed in the 2nd one or he could handle this like when he freed his Dad.

 

[crimsonaudio]

The US has been taking out the Iranian banks and computer servers that the govt uses to pay the IRGC and Basij. The next payday is March 21, but the system has been destroyed already. It will be interesting to see how long the Iranian govt lasts once paychecks stop arriving.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2034276491970629877

 

[crimsonaudio]

Cracks inside Iran’s military are turning into collapse, with troops facing food shortages and collapsing morale.

A staff member from the Islamic Republic’s air defense unit reports collapsing morale, with soldiers and even commanders abandoning their posts.

Until yesterday, they were barely given proper food. Now, authorities are suddenly distributing full meal packages in a desperate attempt to boost morale.

“Some have fled. Commanders have fled. No one has any spirit… How can I eat when I feel like this could be my last meal?”

This points to a military structure that is rapidly unraveling from within.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2034367899347845203

 

[crimsonaudio]

Breaking: Last night served as a dry run for Israel to actively support Iranian protesters. During the Chaharshanbe Suri celebrations, Israeli drones reportedly targeted Basij members who were attempting to confront the celebrants.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2034236566718038056

 

[Huckleberry]

Washington Post gift link

Pentagon seeks more than $200 billion in budget request for Iran war​

Some White House officials do not think the Defense Department’s request has a realistic shot of being approved in Congress, one senior administration official said.
The Pentagon has asked the White House to approve a more than $200 billion request to Congress to fund the war in Iran, according to a senior administration official, in an enormous new ask that is almost certain to run into resistance from lawmakers opposed to the conflict.

That number would far surpass the costs of the administration’s massive airstrike campaign to date and instead seek to urgently increase production of critical weaponry expended as U.S. and Israeli forces have struck thousands of targets over the past three weeks, according to three other people familiar with the matter, who confirmed that the Defense Department is seeking packages of that size.






I'm sure all of the conservative/libertarian deficit hawks will come out against this, right?

 

[CrimsonJazz]

I'm sure all of the conservative/libertarian deficit hawks will come out against this, right?

I can’t speak to the conservatives, but anyone paying attention to X can tell you that the libertarians absolutely have with amazing consistency.

 

[92tide]

the shart of the deal

@realDonaldTrump

Israel, out of anger for what has taken place in the Middle East, has violently lashed out at a major facility known as South Pars Gas Field in Iran. A relatively small section of the whole has been hit. The United States knew nothing about this particular attack, and the country of Qatar was in no way, shape, or form, involved with it, nor did it have any idea that it was going to happen. Unfortunately, Iran did not know this, or any of the pertinent facts pertaining to the South Pars attack, and unjustifiably and unfairly attacked a portion of Qatar’s LNG Gas facility. NO MORE ATTACKS WILL BE MADE BY ISRAEL pertaining to this extremely important and valuable South Pars Field unless Iran unwisely decides to attack a very innocent, in this case, Qatar – In which instance the United States of America, with or without the help or consent of Israel, will massively blow up the entirety of the South Pars Gas Field at an amount of strength and power that Iran has never seen or witnessed before. I do not want to authorize this level of violence and destruction because of the long term implications that it will have on the future of Iran, but if Qatar’s LNG is again attacked, I will not hesitate to do so. Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP

 

[Bamaro]

Washington Post gift link

Pentagon seeks more than $200 billion in budget request for Iran war​

Some White House officials do not think the Defense Department’s request has a realistic shot of being approved in Congress, one senior administration official said.
The Pentagon has asked the White House to approve a more than $200 billion request to Congress to fund the war in Iran, according to a senior administration official, in an enormous new ask that is almost certain to run into resistance from lawmakers opposed to the conflict.

That number would far surpass the costs of the administration’s massive airstrike campaign to date and instead seek to urgently increase production of critical weaponry expended as U.S. and Israeli forces have struck thousands of targets over the past three weeks, according to three other people familiar with the matter, who confirmed that the Defense Department is seeking packages of that size.






I'm sure all of the conservative/libertarian deficit hawks will come out against this, right?

If congress rejects this request, what will keep the orange menace from spending it anyway?

 

[Huckleberry]

If congress rejects this request, what will keep the orange menace from spending it anyway?

Certainly not the cult and cowards in Congress

 

[Its On A Slab]

It is long past time for “let me resign politely and hope he doesn’t make fun of me.” Tell the whole world, “This moron was told A through F and did it anyway.”

He also sounds like a raging anti-Semite. Even if you line up with “Israel got him to do this” (l agree), his blaming Israel for XYZ plus and absolving the chowder head who plunged us into war is some amusing propaganda.

“I told you not to do this, you did it anyway, and I’ll not have my service besmirched as this generation’s McNamara or Rumsfeld” would have driven home the same message.

We might as well be living in Soviet Russia. For years, WaPost, NYT, CBS, other outlets have been pilloried for investigative journalism. Now that the complainers have gotten their wish, and gutted said organizations, the only new we can trust is foreign. BBC, etc. The rest here is repackaged FoxNews(Pravda).

 

[selmaborntidefan]

“Although President Donald Trump says he has ‘destroyed 100% of Iran’s Military Capability’, the 0% that remains is playing havoc with the global economy.”

- The Economist

 

[Tidewater]

Between civilians reporting positions of officials and fighters to the IDF and these types of revolutionary attacks, we may be seeing the beginning of real change. Hopeful.

More and more reports of drive-by shooting attacks against Basij militia checkpoints in Iran.The regime is under pressure and more and more Basij militia members are refusing to show up for work in the morning.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2034261669082259753

When it appeared they were about to lose, the German SS got mean (actually, extra mean, because the SS were mean on a good day). In the Middle East, when it appears a party is about to lose, they jump ship. This helped us in December 2001. It hurts us in July 2021.
At some point, the Basij are not going to want to go down with the ship and they will jump. You just have to get the ball rolling.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

It’s a crying’ shame the kid from “Iron Eagle” got killed in the 2nd one or he could handle this like when he freed his Dad.

Didn't they retcon that for the last one?

 

[UAH]

We might as well be living in Soviet Russia. For years, WaPost, NYT, CBS, other outlets have been pilloried for investigative journalism. Now that the complainers have gotten their wish, and gutted said organizations, the only new we can trust is foreign. BBC, etc. The rest here is repackaged FoxNews(Pravda).

I watched comments made by Max Blumenthal this morning related to a number of (Zionist) US Billionaires, who while not in love with Natanyahu, support Israel. The Kushner's and their obvious influence inside the Trump Administration as well as Steve Witkoff are included in the mix. Essentially Trump was pushed into this which goes against his MAGA supporters.

I am perplexed at how we line up and cheer this on in light of our last 60 + years of US failures in foreign wars. Yet here we are asking Congress for an additional $200 Billion to support this war in a situation where our National Debt has become completely unmanageable.