Tua's Heisman Campaign watch
- Thread starter TUSCALOOSAHONOR
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You know, it's breath taking to think of what might be if Tua could play 3 full seasons. He'll surely go pro after next year, but can you imagine? The records would probably not be broken. At least in our life times.
They are wrong. Tua is and has been leading private polls and Vegas Odds for weeks. Right after the L8U game Tua's lead was as large as Baker's 2 weeks before the ceremony.
The lead was cut in half the last two weeks because of the dirty hits on Tua but he STILL had his 2nd largest lead of the season over Kyler.
After watching Kyler throw against air last night vs the 59th Total D in which he had 2 MORE turnovers.....
Followed by Tua GOING OFF on the 11th Scoring D with 'blanket' mugging coverage with 6 TD's and ZERO turnovers it's DONE.
The Heisman is Tua's.
That was completely predictable. Tebow already won it in 2007. He was just there to put more eyeballs on the TV. Even if Bradford was not playing at OU that year, McCoy would have won it over Tebow IMO. Let’s also bear in mind that Colt McCoy, Graham Harrell, and Michael Crabtree all took a combined total of 1933 votes.
LOL! We all know that is one of the highest criteria in choosing.....Johnny Manziel, says hi!
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Without defining their "information." Is this poll of their own readers or what?
By the way, for what it is worth Tua is now first in Nissan's Heisman House voting:
http://promo.espn.com/espn/contests/nissan/heisman/2018/
(If you want a chuckle check the percentage of votes Murray has)
http://promo.espn.com/espn/contests/nissan/heisman/2018/
(If you want a chuckle check the percentage of votes Murray has)
Can you make sure all Heisman voters see this? This is awesome! 😀. Surely the voters will see these stats... and vote for Tua.
One thing that could be brought up with the “stats only†crowd â€â€was Sam Bradford the national passing yardage leader in 2008, and was Billy Sims the national rushing yardage leader in 1978? I don’t know the answer to either of those questions, but I’m guessing they weren’tâ€â€yet they both won the heisman at Oklahoma.
Stats are important, but must be looked at in context and alone they don’t tell the whole story.
Stats are important, but must be looked at in context and alone they don’t tell the whole story.
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Lol true but I think they gave specific statistics of when voters send in votes. I'll have to find it tomorrow
Well... if Skip Bayless says Murray deserves it, I guess he should win it. I mean, he's been so right about the superiority of Harbaugh over Saban.
Here's the story in context with stats:
Kyler Murray plays in a garbage conference where defenses leave WR's 20-30 yards open and LB's and DB's can't tackle post catch.....literally.
His Stats are: 216 for 306 (70.6%) for 3,674 yards (12.0 YPA) 37 TD's 7 INT's and 853 yards rushing 10 TD's 2 Lost Fumbles = Passer Rating 206.77
Tua plays in a Conference who's reputation is built on Defenses of which 4 opponents are in the Top 12 in the NCAA in Scoring D.
His Stats are: 189 for 269 (70.2%) for 3,189 yards (11.9 YPA) 36 TD's 2 INT's and 211 yards rushing 5 TD's 0 Lost Fumbles = Passer Rating 212.52
The guy who actually has to consistently make tight window throws against fundamentally sound defenses has the higher Passer Rating (Tua)
The guy who gets to throw consistently to WIDE OPEN receivers against clown show defenses has 9 Turnovers.
Their Comp% and YPA have been a dead heat all year back and forth with fractional negligible differences.
I mean you have a guy with a TD:INT ratio of 18:1 (Tua) and another with a TD:INT ratio of 5:1 (Kyler) and they face significantly different levels of competition.
Not to mention that Tua has at least 105 less snaps that Kyler if you subtract the difference in there Pass/Run totals.
Kyler Murray plays in a garbage conference where defenses leave WR's 20-30 yards open and LB's and DB's can't tackle post catch.....literally.
His Stats are: 216 for 306 (70.6%) for 3,674 yards (12.0 YPA) 37 TD's 7 INT's and 853 yards rushing 10 TD's 2 Lost Fumbles = Passer Rating 206.77
Tua plays in a Conference who's reputation is built on Defenses of which 4 opponents are in the Top 12 in the NCAA in Scoring D.
His Stats are: 189 for 269 (70.2%) for 3,189 yards (11.9 YPA) 36 TD's 2 INT's and 211 yards rushing 5 TD's 0 Lost Fumbles = Passer Rating 212.52
The guy who actually has to consistently make tight window throws against fundamentally sound defenses has the higher Passer Rating (Tua)
The guy who gets to throw consistently to WIDE OPEN receivers against clown show defenses has 9 Turnovers.
Their Comp% and YPA have been a dead heat all year back and forth with fractional negligible differences.
I mean you have a guy with a TD:INT ratio of 18:1 (Tua) and another with a TD:INT ratio of 5:1 (Kyler) and they face significantly different levels of competition.
Not to mention that Tua has at least 105 less snaps that Kyler if you subtract the difference in there Pass/Run totals.
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