USA Today: Break up Saban's Monopoly

[Elefantman]

We only won half of the NC's in the last 12 years and let someone else win the other half. Sounds fair to me.

 

[BamaPokerplayer]

Guy wants to take 1000s of scholarships away from both men and women because he feels Alabama is winning too much.

 

[Crimson1967]

The forced retirement was obviously a joke. But the other suggestions of expanding the playoffs and cutting scholarships aren’t new. I think more playoff teams is happening sooner than later. I don’t see scholarship reductions but with schools losing millions due to COVID some may push for it.

 

[CullmanTide]

Really, that's his issue. How would expansion change anything? Just means 1 more blow out Bama would have had to play before winning it all. The people that think expansion will create more diversity in champions are really dumb. It hasn't done that at any level of college football to date.

Diversity is becoming the word for let's punish hard work.

 

[jashleyren2]

What a wimpy, whiny article.

Schrotenboer's soft mentality is a large art of what's wrong with the world today.

I'd be mortified to even think this way, much less publish an article about it. SMH

Well said. Worse part of it, is I don't think the course of the world's whininess can be reversed now. The cat is out of the bag, so to speak. It's why, as a parent, you don't say "yes" to your kids all the time. Learn the word "no", and use it a lot.

I'm fun at parties.

 

[CrimSonami]

This guy's "GREAT JOB" T-Ball coach must have been a really heavy life influence.

JEEZ!!!

 

[Down4ttown]

Doesn’t surprise me. The way the country try is going, I imagine they will try to split the title into 120 pieces so everyone gets a piece of it.

 

[BamaInCummingGA]

We Bama fans don't want to hear it, but if you are a fan of any other school not named Bama, Clemson, OSU, Oklahoma, or ND, the cfp basically sucks. Those 5 teams account for 79% of cfp appearances & 86% of cfp titles. In terms of parity & fairness, the 4-team cfp has proven to be an even worse model than the old bowl system or the 2-team BCS. One big factor is the 3 to 4 weeks leading up to cfp basically turns into a giant recruiting infomercial for the 4 cfp teams, giving them a huge edge over everyone else. And as bowl games dwindle in importance (both a side-effect of the cfp and of the changing times), this will only get worse (or better if you're one of these 5 teams). The 4-team field also locks out minor conferences from even having a chance & all but locks out PAC 12, which, like it or not, is ultimately bad for college football in general and will eventually hit TV ratings & $$ for all teams.

If we're gonna be honest, I'd take Oklahoma over ND or Clemson in a cfp game right now, and would at least put TAM as a pick 'em vs those two (actually I'd pick TAM over ND). So not having OU & TAM in the cfp meant two of the best teams in nation were not there. How is that a good thing if the goal is to determine who the best team in the nation is?

While it might not be what's best for Bama, Clemson, OSU, etc. in terms of winning more titles in the short run, expanding the cfp is what is best for everyone else & in the long run as the bowl games dwindle (with or without cfp expansion few nfl prospects will be playing in non-cfp post-season games in the future & few fans will be attending those game) is what is best for all of college football.

Who cares about the johnny come lately's?
Are you really going to sit here and say that it's best for expanding the playoffs because over 90% of the other programs don't get a chair at the table?
Name another team that was not in the final 4 that you can truly say would have had a legit shot?
You want to know what is best for college football? The power 4 (yeah, Pac, you are not a power conference) need to break off into its own division, the group of 5 weasels have their own division. Cut the bowl games in half and cut conference ties to the bowls and get some matchups people would actually like to see.
All this expansion talk is code for "Everybody Gets a Trophy".
Enough already. Year in and year out there 5 ,maybe 6 , teams that actually have a legit shot at winning it all.
You want to have a chance? Work harder, recruit better, hire better coaching staff.

 

[CullmanTide]

We Bama fans don't want to hear it, but if you are a fan of any other school not named Bama, Clemson, OSU, Oklahoma, or ND, the cfp basically sucks. Those 5 teams account for 79% of cfp appearances & 86% of cfp titles. In terms of parity & fairness, the 4-team cfp has proven to be an even worse model than the old bowl system or the 2-team BCS. One big factor is the 3 to 4 weeks leading up to cfp basically turns into a giant recruiting infomercial for the 4 cfp teams, giving them a huge edge over everyone else. And as bowl games dwindle in importance (both a side-effect of the cfp and of the changing times), this will only get worse (or better if you're one of these 5 teams). The 4-team field also locks out minor conferences from even having a chance & all but locks out PAC 12, which, like it or not, is ultimately bad for college football in general and will eventually hit TV ratings & $$ for all teams.

If we're gonna be honest, I'd take Oklahoma over ND or Clemson in a cfp game right now, and would at least put TAM as a pick 'em vs those two (actually I'd pick TAM over ND). So not having OU & TAM in the cfp meant two of the best teams in nation were not there. How is that a good thing if the goal is to determine who the best team in the nation is?

While it might not be what's best for Bama, Clemson, OSU, etc. in terms of winning more titles in the short run, expanding the cfp is what is best for everyone else & in the long run as the bowl games dwindle (with or without cfp expansion few nfl prospects will be playing in non-cfp post-season games in the future & few fans will be attending those game) is what is best for all of college football.

Maybe Alabama, Ohio State and Clemson should just sit out a season and give everyone who doesn't believe in the value of hard work and perseverance a chance. Is that what you are saying?

 

[crimsonaudio]

Well said. Worse part of it, is I don't think the course of the world's whininess can be reversed now. The cat is out of the bag, so to speak. It's why, as a parent, you don't say "yes" to your kids all the time. Learn the word "no", and use it a lot.

I'm fun at parties.

That's fine - it's why Bama will continue to kick everyone's butt and while the whiny people's kids will end up working for mine.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I don't know how much of this article was tongue in cheek and how much was actually serious. But in a day and age where I've watched (on more than one occasion) local youth sports leagues ask teams who win too much, to "go find somewhere else to play". This article doesn't surprise me one bit.

 

[USCBAMA]

Who cares about the johnny come lately's?
Are you really going to sit here and say that it's best for expanding the playoffs because over 90% of the other programs don't get a chair at the table?
Name another team that was not in the final 4 that you can truly say would have had a legit shot?
You want to know what is best for college football? The power 4 (yeah, Pac, you are not a power conference) need to break off into its own division, the group of 5 weasels have their own division. Cut the bowl games in half and cut conference ties to the bowls and get some matchups people would actually like to see.
All this expansion talk is code for "Everybody Gets a Trophy".
Enough already. Year in and year out there 5 ,maybe 6 , teams that actually have a legit shot at winning it all.
You want to have a chance? Work harder, recruit better, hire better coaching staff.

Oklahoma would beat ND & Clemson, and on a given day could beat OSU. TAM would likely beat ND & could play with Clemson & OSU. It's naive to think no team outside cfp top 4 could ever compete with any of the teams in the cfp top 4. Heck, the 1st 4 cfp champs all had a loss to a team not in the top 4. We heard all this same stuff defending BCS, and lo and behold a 4-team playoff did the opposite of what was predicted, with the #1 seed not winning it all until year 6.

Competition breeds excellence, the lack of competition breeds monopolies. As long as your team is one of the monopolies that may seem like a great system, but it kind of sucks for everyone else... and after a while of seeing the same old thing over and over this is what you get:

Alabama's blowout of Ohio State draws the smallest audience in the seven-year history of the title game.

TV Ratings: College Football Playoff Championship Plummets | Hollywood Reporter

 

[B1GTide]

Oklahoma would beat ND & Clemson, and on a given day could beat OSU. TAM would likely beat ND & could play with Clemson & OSU. It's naive to think no team outside cfp top 4 could ever compete with any of the teams in the cfp top 4. Heck, the 1st 4 cfp champs all had a loss to a team not in the top 4. We heard all this same stuff defending BCS, and lo and behold a 4-team playoff did the opposite of what was predicted, with the #1 seed not winning it all until year 6.

Competition breeds excellence, the lack of competition breeds monopolies. As long as your team is one of the monopolies that may seem like a great system, but it kind of sucks for everyone else... and after a while of seeing the same old thing over and over this is what you get:

Alabama's blowout of Ohio State draws the smallest audience in the seven-year history of the title game.

TV Ratings: College Football Playoff Championship Plummets | Hollywood Reporter

This just in - viewers do not watch blowouts. Shocking, I know.

 

[bamacon]

LOL,

Let's just hand out participation trophies....

We do. They are called bowl games.

 

[bamacon]

Always good to remember that pretty much every sportswriter is an idiot.

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This exactly! What’s the problem? The dynasty has been dead for years!!!!

 

[bamacon]

Diversity is becoming the word for let's punish hard work.

Maybe they would be nicer if we used a female kicker since they don’t even recognize ours when they are PERFECT.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I'm not going to link it because I don't want to give the guy any "clicks". But Joe Klatt was on Cow*urd today and if you think this article has some cry baby whiney ideas to "make it fair". It holds nothing to what Klatt and Cow*urd think should be done to college football, specifically to the SEC. To even discuss it on Tidefans, we would actually have to discuss on the NS politics board. Yeah, no joke.

 

[lowend]

I'm reveling in this. I'll take the hate any day rather than being a has-been team with a bad logo. #angryelephant

 

[JayBama_in_PCOLA]

This just in - viewers do not watch blowouts. Shocking, I know.

Precisely! Even I turn away from them.

 

[BamaFlum]

My students are writing an essay about competition being necessary for success and the majority recognize that for sports, it is vital. But I will have a few that just don’t get it. These teams are in the playoffs for a reason: they work their dang butt off in every aspect of the game.