Warning to Tide Fans in B'ham area

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kev4bama:
Im thinking the price is printed right there on the media guide which is already $20.00 and now you want to charge more that is when I really started to pay attention to their pricing. </font>

The "price" is NOT printed on the media guide. That is a suggested dollar amount. Again, price is a function of what the buyer is willing to pay AND what the seller is willing to accept for payment. If the seller is not willing to accept $20, then $20 is not the price. Why should he give something to you for $20 when he has other people willing to pay $25?

If you walk into a store and they have a 1992 media guide that has a "price" of $12 pre-printed on the cover, do you expect the store to sell it to you for $12?
 
Stephen if you will look at the back cover of last years media guide right above the barcode the price is printed right there and I was mistaken it was $15.00 last year the ones this year are $20.00 Please tell me if you are going to own a business because I do not want to shop with you as it appears that money runs your life and you are willing to stick it to someone as hard as possible for the all mighty buck. It kind of sounds as if you might have taken your Economics classes at Allbarn. What you are saying about demand it true but that isnt the point. The point is right or wrong. Please tell me one store that you have ever gone to and paid more than the price listed on the front of a magazine or book. Most places I go I pay less, but never more. This is not about being morally wrong or illegal. This is about treating your customers right and about me letting my friends on this board know what the situation is so that they can make their own choices about where to get their merchandise. I certainly appreciate when someone tries to save me 5 or 10 bucks
 
OK kev, you are trying to turn this nasty and personal and I am not going to bite. I have a BS in Business and an MBA, both from UA if you must know. That included no fewer than 3 Econ classes.

I notice you have not answered my questions about your Auburn ticket or the 1992 media guide. Are they that difficult?

And I have paid more than the price listed on the front of a magazine or book a number of times. As a matter of fact, when the special edition Sports Illustrateds came out in 1993, everybody was paying more than the cover price.
 
Stephen,

Certainly dont want to make anything nasty. As far as My Lee County ticket if I could not go I would honestly sell it to another tide fan probably one on here for what I paid for it which is face value. I can honestly say that I have never sold a ticket for more than face as I would want someone to do tha same for me. As for the media guide I would expect to pay more for that because it is a collectors item however I would not have expected to pay more for it in 1992 which I did not and I also paid the retail price for my national championship sports illustrated. I wanted to answer your questions but hey we can certainly agree to disagree on somethings, everyone is different. Like I said my main point was to let people on here know and they can make their choice from there. I would like to meet you before a game this year and shake your hand as I know we do agree on one thing and that is a love for the Tide! Sorry about the Allbarn comment, that was a little below the belt
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Roll Tide

Kevin
 
.... I'm like so what? If people pay their price, thats their problem.... I personally go to the mom and pop shops... away from the malls..... they have more overhead anyway..
 
So you are not willing to sell the ticket for $35, but I am pretty sure that if I offered you $1 million for it, you would agree. You would not be mistreating me, you would just be giving me something that I want in exchange for an amount of money that is suitable for you. As for your media guide answer, I would be interested to know at what point something becomes a collector's item and it is ok for someone to sell it for more than the marked price. An item for sale is an item for sale. What if Bama Fever considers Nike Alabama shirts to be a collector's item? A collector's item is only valuable because someone is willing to pay a certain price for it. I am just having trouble understanding why you believe that the Nike corporation has a better idea of the going price for a shirt in Birmingham than does someone who lives in Birmingham.

Anyway, I would be happy to meet you before a game this year. I plan to make the long journey to all of them.
 
Ok guys, you are killing me here, besides I can hear you still at work on South Blvd in Charlotte, NC..

Lets play nice now..

Roll Tide..

So Stephen, how long have you been in Charlotte?
 
No yelling here kiki. Just a discussion on a subject of disagreement.

I have been in Charlotte for just under a year now after 2 and a half years in Atlanta. How about yourself?
 
Because everyone else in Birmingham besides this store seems to believe that the nike price is acceptible and most seem to think it is too high which is why they mark it down. I even think the Nike price is too high. $55.00 for a polo shirt is a little steep. I am not sure how things are priced where you are but on just about any name brand article of clothing at any store there is a suggested retail price. I have never had a store ask for more than that. 99% of the time it is less. A car has a window sticker with a MSRP now how often do you pay that? Some dealers with higher class cars may say that is the price and we are not coming off but the bottom line is they dont sell them for more than the factory says they should. The price of living is not through the roof in Birmingham so I have a hard time believing that a shirt is worth more here than a multi multi million dollar company thinks it is.
 
I was just picking on ya'all. I have been Charlotte, NC Just over 7 years. I moved here from Brooklyn, NY on Memorial day 1997. I love it here.. Just rural enough to remind me of Alabama and fast enough that I dont get too bored
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Lets just say we agree to disagree. I am sure some people would agree with you and some with me. Like I said maybe I did something good to save one of my friends on here a few bucks. Other than that I will buy my goods at some of the other places I have mentioned before. Better yet I am planning a trip to T-Town in July for a day. You can always find the newest and nicest stuff there believe it or not cheaper than anywhere else.

ROLL TIDE !

Kevin
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kiki_da_poet:
I was just picking on ya'all. I have been Charlotte, NC Just over 7 years. I moved here from Brooklyn, NY on Memorial day 1997. I love it here.. Just rural enough to remind me of Alabama and fast enough that I dont get too bored
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Well, I will say that the traffic here is much better than Atlanta. I get a good laugh out of people here complaining about traffic. Do you attend any alumni functions or anything?
 
It's not the prices at the "BAMA FEVER" locations, its the SELECTION of items that cause me some problems, they never seem to have a very good selection of Crimson Tide Gear or products.I find a better selection at the SUPE Store or the ALABAMA Book Store.
Just my two cents worth.
ROLL TIDE ROLL, let's start the season tomorrow.

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I think before we blame the store owner, let's start with the source. To be able to purchase Nike merchandise for your store, you must follow their rules to some degree. You must price according to their MSRP when an item is new and you must promote the item in groups together and in a high traffic area. To keep everyone from having the same type of products Nike also has several "levels" of purchasing. This can be noticed more in stores that sell shoes. Stores that get the lastest shoes (the Air Shox, Jordans, etc) first and the store specific shoes (ie Foot Locker) are on the highest level of purchase. I used to be a manager for a chain of stores called Sports and Recreation. Each of the stores took the name of the city it was in (ie Birmingham Sports). After Christmas, all of the stores put our left over Nike windsuits on sale. As always, all sale racks were moved to the front of the store. Well, a Nike Rep happen to walk into that store and was offended that their product was now close to the fishing dept and reported that to their management. So in return, our chain lost it's ability to buy the Air Max shoes, the Jordan's, etc and could only buy the low end of their shoes. You could only imagine what impact that had on overall sales. The bottom line, yes the cost of the Nike products to the stores are very cheap but as long as the demand is there, who is going to stop it? (for example, if you are paying $120.00 for shoes, they only cost the store about $45.00). After 7 years working for different companies and selling the Nike product, I just don't have warm fuzzies about them. At every year end company wide meeting our vendors (Adidas, Reebok, K-Swiss, New Balance) would have t-shirts, hats, socks, shoes, etc for the store manager's as a "thank you" for helping to push their products.....all except for Nike. We would get a keychain or a bumper sticker. We joked to our Nike representive one time about their "thank you" gifts and his comment was "we are Nike, we sell ourself. We don't have to put our product on you for it to sell, everyone wants it." So the only Nike products you will catch me wearing are Bama related....never again will I buy their shoes.
 
In line with your markup remarks, I have a friend who worked several summers at BF here in Huntsville (he's a HS coach). The owner is a niece of the owner of the B'ham stores. He says they never marked up the Nike stuff over MSRP, but they did everything else. A Nike $55 shirt costs the store $12.
 
Nike has one of the highest markups with regards to cost of any supplier in the licenced goods market, meaning that thier cost is minimal compared to what they in turn charge the retailer.

Obviously, large chain retailers like JCPenney can buy more, and hence at a lower cost per unit, than can Bama Fever. That is whay Penney's can sell the same shirt for 25% less.

4Da
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kev4bama:
I just cant see how anyone would not be willing to go a few miles down the road if they took the time to research or realize how much they are marking products up.</font>


Exactly what was meant earlier by the market rules. You've done your part by informing the "market" or consumer. When consumers have more / better information, they can make better purchasing decisions.
 
I make my own shirts with a pack of Haynes 'wife-beaters' and a big can of "maroon" paint.
Stencil is made from old 12-pack boxes taped together.
BamaFever buys these from me, and they are cheaper than the Nike ones....maybe this helps?
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kev4bama:
Because everyone else in Birmingham besides this store seems to believe that the nike price is acceptible and most seem to think it is too high which is why they mark it down. I even think the Nike price is too high. $55.00 for a polo shirt is a little steep. I am not sure how things are priced where you are but on just about any name brand article of clothing at any store there is a suggested retail price. I have never had a store ask for more than that. 99% of the time it is less. A car has a window sticker with a MSRP now how often do you pay that? Some dealers with higher class cars may say that is the price and we are not coming off but the bottom line is they dont sell them for more than the factory says they should. The price of living is not through the roof in Birmingham so I have a hard time believing that a shirt is worth more here than a multi multi million dollar company thinks it is. </font>

I'm not a shopper. I'm a buyer. I run in buy what I need and get the hell out. Most of my shirt purchases come from my clubs pro shop and judging from thier prices, $55 is one hell of a good deal.

PS - Why would anyone buy a Nike product anyway?

[This message has been edited by Bojo (edited 06-23-2004).]
 
BoJo:

One of the coolest Bama shirts I own was bought by me at Bentbrook. And it was not a NIKE.

FYI: Nice Black Golf Shirt w/ Horizontal Crimson Pinstripes and about a thosand little logos in between the pinstripes. Check it out. I get favorable comments and people ask me where I found it all the time.
 

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