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Bill Oliver followed closely by Ken Donahue. Could easily be the other way around. No one come close to those two but coach Kines gets an honorable mention

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Experts who have followed college football for the past 50 years would agree Coach Donahue is the most legendary assistant coach in the history of college football.

http://www.tshf.net/inductees/donahue.html

He helped TN shut down Miami much like we did in the Sugar Bowl, after Coach Bryant died and the staff he had assembled moved on.
 
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I almost forgot how much I admire Coach Kines. I was all about havin him take the reigns when shula got fired. He's a legend.
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I like Kines the person but not impressed with his defenses - They caved in the 4th - seldom stopped a team when it was crunch time. I like the persoan, really glad he still works for Bama but really glad he is no ivovled with coaching.
Ken Donahue or Bill Oliver
 
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I like Kines the person but not impressed with his defenses - They caved in the 4th - seldom stopped a team when it was crunch time. I like the persoan, really glad he still works for Bama but really glad he is no ivovled with coaching.
Ken Donahue or Bill Oliver
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I'm not saying Kinds is the best DC I remember but I do think the reason his defenses seemed to cave in the 4th quarter were because the Offense simply couldn't move the ball and the D was called on time and time again to make a stop. I have never seen the amount of heart that are D has shown over the last couple of years.
 
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I'm not saying Kinds is the best DC I remember but I do think the reason his defenses seemed to cave in the 4th quarter were because the Offense simply couldn't move the ball and the D was called on time and time again to make a stop. I have never seen the amount of heart that are D has shown over the last couple of years.
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I never saw much heart/desire/determination from the defense - ANY time a defense NEEDS to stop an offense from scoring it is because the offense didn't score enough points - Doesn't matter if it's USC, Patriots or Alabama

the offense moved the ball up and down the field - did not produce enough in
the red zone. However the offense scored enough points to win every single game.

I don't recall many 'reacting' defenses winning championships it almost always an attacking defense that pressures the offense that wins.

I like Kines & respect Kines but did not like his defense

In regards to the others mentioned it's not even close but I like Kines ther person more that I do Bill Oliver.
 
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I would say Brother Bill was the best I saw followed by Coach Kines. But you have to remember I was not old enough to see Coach Donahue's defenses, so take that for what it's worth.

And as for Coach Kines and his defenses. I seem to remember Coach Kines' defense in 2005 was ranked as the best defense in the country. The reason we won 10 games in 2005 was because of that great defense. I think his best defensive performance came against LSU in 2005 in a loss. With the game tied heading into the 4th quarter our defense had its back against the wall for the entire quarter but never gave up a single score. Each time LSU took possession they were around the Bama 40 yard line, and need only about 10 yards to get that game winning field goal. Yet they never could move the ball that far. That is not a defense folding in the 4th quarter, that is a defense stepping up their game in the 4th quarter when the game was on the line. Now I know we lost in OT, but that was on the offense. You can't keep coming up with huge stops forever when your O can't even move the ball 10 yards.
 
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Coach Bryant swore by Ken Donahue, that's good enough for me.

To suggest that Shula's offenses scored enough points to win every game is just ridiculous. If his offenses had of been as good as Coach Kines' defenses, he'd still be our HC and we wouldn't have lost 5 in a row to the boogs.
 
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Coach Bryant swore by Ken Donahue, that's good enough for me.

To suggest that Shula's offenses scored enough points to win every game is just ridiculous. If his offenses had of been as good as Coach Kines' defenses, he'd still be our HC and we wouldn't have lost 5 in a row to the boogs.
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how many points does it take...? Auburn beat LSU without scoring a TD - was that because the offense was super that day or because the defense shut down LSU

Not dawggin Kines - Just don't like his style of defense and doesn't compare to the others mentioned - no harm done. I think defense should be able to stop other teams, PERIOD...

anyway a moot point - Saban didn't feel to need to retain him - Kines is a great man IMHO
 
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moorav said:
I never saw much heart/desire/determination from the defense - ANY time a defense NEEDS to stop an offense from scoring it is because the offense didn't score enough points - Doesn't matter if it's USC, Patriots or Alabama

the offense moved the ball up and down the field - did not produce enough in
the red zone. However the offense scored enough points to win every single game.

I don't recall many 'reacting' defenses winning championships it almost always an attacking defense that pressures the offense that wins.

I like Kines & respect Kines but did not like his defense

In regards to the others mentioned it's not even close but I like Kines ther person more that I do Bill Oliver.
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I'm not saying he's the best ever either, but, in 2005 when he had talented seniors on the field, they were special. See Tennessee, or Florida for proof. To say you never saw heart from them is ridiculous. again see Tennessee.
 
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