Why do players opt out?
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players opt out as a business decision.
If you haven’t noticed, many football players engage in the sport to get rich. School loyalties and rivalries are utterly meaningless in the greater pursuit of gEtTiNG pAiD.
If you haven’t noticed, many football players engage in the sport to get rich. School loyalties and rivalries are utterly meaningless in the greater pursuit of gEtTiNG pAiD.
I missed the symbolism here but it appears to show an injured quarterback making a pass and getting carried off.. if I’m not wrong, that’s more about the spirit of the game.
Perhaps. I'm 38 though. Child of the 90s.
Hell. Maybe I am getting old. Get off my lawn.
Apparently you don't have selma's memory so I will help you out. That is Byron Leftwich who was seriously injured in the game. Instead of coming out of the game, he stayed in. He was completing passes for first downs. The players were not carrying him off but instead carrying him to the new line of scrimmage. It was incredible to watch the guts of that guy.
Edit: It was NOT a bowl game though.
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What I keep seeing in thread by thread of this is the focus on upper mid majors (citrus) and the non semi final NY6 bowls. No one has mentioned the possibility of Oregon and Oklahoma playing nearly a whole 2nd string team. I’ve also seen numerous posts for the past two weeks saying “I only like two or 3 of these bowls” and the vast majority of the bowls listed are NY6 and upper mid majors. So it’s really pointing towards the outrage is more towards it’s more about opt outs in bowls that you care about. This really started to become an issue on this board when Georgia had numerous opt outs in the two Sugar bowls and last year Florida’s mass opt outs vs Oklahoma.
There are two pragmatic ways to fix this. 1) cut 80% of the P5 bowls and/or 2) expand the playoffs. The former isn’t going to happen because of the massive amount of money each conference and the latter is clearly not popular here. So we are just going to have to accept this is the new normal and find positives. Like a positive is real play time for either a guy that is going to be there next year or a senior that isn’t going to be a high draft pick. The guys that filled in for Lewis and Diggs in the Citrus bowl got some very valuable playing time and have really grew in the following two years.
The truth is that bowl games have greatly diminished in value and many players feel the same way too. Either make compelling bowl games (and don’t let Texas protest getting aTm as a draw) or make bowl games bigger rewards or else this is going to become more and more of a thing.
There are two pragmatic ways to fix this. 1) cut 80% of the P5 bowls and/or 2) expand the playoffs. The former isn’t going to happen because of the massive amount of money each conference and the latter is clearly not popular here. So we are just going to have to accept this is the new normal and find positives. Like a positive is real play time for either a guy that is going to be there next year or a senior that isn’t going to be a high draft pick. The guys that filled in for Lewis and Diggs in the Citrus bowl got some very valuable playing time and have really grew in the following two years.
The truth is that bowl games have greatly diminished in value and many players feel the same way too. Either make compelling bowl games (and don’t let Texas protest getting aTm as a draw) or make bowl games bigger rewards or else this is going to become more and more of a thing.
Alot of people bring up the injury thing, you can get hurt in practice which we have seen here as well as every where so I don't buy that theory. I believe it's all about me and the one's who play are team players
I still think the bigger issue is too many bowls. Just look at the SEC teams that got bowl invites with 6-6 record
Auburn
Lsu
Florida
Mizzou
South Carolina
two have interim coaches. Aside from Bazza and Dub how many of those games besides the potential humor of seeing Auburn losing in Bham are y’all really marking your calendars to watch? Even then most of the NY6 bowls are usually snoozer matchups. In the first year they had GT vs MSU in Miami with the get in price at $4. Ole Miss vs TCU wasn’t much better. The Peach bowls best game in the entire NY6 non playoff run was Cincy vs Georgia. The Fiesta isn’t much better.
Auburn
Lsu
Florida
Mizzou
South Carolina
two have interim coaches. Aside from Bazza and Dub how many of those games besides the potential humor of seeing Auburn losing in Bham are y’all really marking your calendars to watch? Even then most of the NY6 bowls are usually snoozer matchups. In the first year they had GT vs MSU in Miami with the get in price at $4. Ole Miss vs TCU wasn’t much better. The Peach bowls best game in the entire NY6 non playoff run was Cincy vs Georgia. The Fiesta isn’t much better.
How about this.
-keep the playoff selection and rankings as is but push back the bowl selection to that following Thursday
- have official opt out day that Wednesday.
- any opt outs after that will result in the potential forfeiture of that bowl appearance that they are selected to be in for a team that doesn’t have many opt outs.
- have the late opt out pay a fine that must be paid by their first contract in the NFL.
That way you can create compelling bowls and force penalties.
-keep the playoff selection and rankings as is but push back the bowl selection to that following Thursday
- have official opt out day that Wednesday.
- any opt outs after that will result in the potential forfeiture of that bowl appearance that they are selected to be in for a team that doesn’t have many opt outs.
- have the late opt out pay a fine that must be paid by their first contract in the NFL.
That way you can create compelling bowls and force penalties.
Yes. I may need three soon to avoid having to sift and read thru multi page long, long treads. I am loving this retro look.We needed 2 threads about opting out?
I am reminded of the "everyone gets a trophy" syndrome. Multiplying like rabbits. I seem to remember the Academy Awards being a big deal because they were special. Now there are so many I haven't watched in many, many years. Best story continuity consultant. Best assistant story continuity consultant. Best dialogue coordinator & on and on and on. Overkill. Almost everything is devalued today, including the "there is no "I" in Team."
I have been thinking about that as well. Yes, they could get hurt. But they could also get hurt in a wreck going out to eat. They haven't quit eating out have they? See what I mean. Excuse.
Personally, I am one of those that feel they have quit on their team. I wonder how the coaches feel? One good thing is that player's that are coming back may get some game experience that they would not have gotten without some player's quitting.
Player empowerment. It's a general trend over the last ten years or so in sports collectively.
LeBron doing his "Decision" and what not.
The woke media has gotten on-board -- you will pretty much never see anyone in the mainstream sports media side with a team, program or org over the individual player ever.
On some level I get it and even support it -- but it goes too far, IMO.
LeBron doing his "Decision" and what not.
The woke media has gotten on-board -- you will pretty much never see anyone in the mainstream sports media side with a team, program or org over the individual player ever.
On some level I get it and even support it -- but it goes too far, IMO.
Coaches quit on their teams all the time though. Look at Lincoln Riley, Brian Kelly, etc.
Once these guys have a better offer they're out the door. The realization that players were being held to a different standard is part of why "player empowerment" has so much mainstream support.
Players are making a "business decision" just like coaches are.
CFB has always been a business. Everybody on this site knows this, why are people still (semi)surprise that players are opt-ing out? Players today are talking control of their careers instead of letting colleges or the NFL dictate their careers.
The only players that bowl games matter to are the non-draft eligible players.These young men have decided to look after themselves ahead of the universities (who will be fine with or without these players) and rightfully so, imo. It's their career and only they should have a say in how they handle it.
I know some want to label them quitters but I won't.
The only players that bowl games matter to are the non-draft eligible players.These young men have decided to look after themselves ahead of the universities (who will be fine with or without these players) and rightfully so, imo. It's their career and only they should have a say in how they handle it.
I know some want to label them quitters but I won't.
I said my piece. I refuse to call players quitters--like Pickett/Walker---who prioritize their careers over what's best for a university football team.
I agree. Most of these guys seem to love playing football, so the only reason that I can understand is if they may be a high draft pick. Even then I see them as quitters even if I can understand it. The bowl games aren't any less meaningful than they've ever been regardless of what people try to say. The national champion used to be named before bowl games. They were definitely "meaningless" in those days. In any given year only two or three bowl games at most "meant" anything as far as winning a championship. Student-athletes used to know what a good deal they had. They got to play a game with their teammates and get a lot of benefits to do so. Now they seem to want to act like it is a chore or a job, which helps some people make the argument that they are employees. We'll see how things play out.
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