Wimp doesn't think Gallion will win.

onebama#1

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Listen to SST the other night, CWS said he didn't think Gallion would win the case against NCAA. He said I might be wrong, but he didn't think their chances were very good.
From what I've read and heard, I think they have a very chance of winning. What do you think?
 

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I sure like the approach he is taking and feel like he has a bettter chance than I did a year ago.

If nothing else, Gallion sure has them thinking about their defense and paying their attorneys a lot of $$$$$.

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TommyMac

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I've never given the opinions of ex-basketball coaches much weight on legal matters.

Conversely, I'd never give much value to an attorney's solution on how to beat the zone press.
 

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Wimp's depth of bitterness towards UA is clouding his judgment in this matter, as well. Not that he has any qualifications for having an opinion, anyway...
 

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TommyMac:
I've never given the opinions of ex-basketball coaches much weight on legal matters.

Conversely, I'd never give much value to an attorney's solution on how to beat the zone press.
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What if an attorney agrees with the basketball coach??
 

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Here's one attorney who doesn't agree with him. I was extremely skeptical in the beginning. In fact, I engaged in a multi-page thread with several other posters, maintaining that the final outcome had to be bad for UA. For one thing, I did not foresee how Neal's criminal discovery could be "piggy-backed" by Gallion. I've come around 180 degrees and, now, my principal fear is that the NCAA will throw enough money at Ronnie and Ivy to settle it. We know it will eventually happen and we also know that they will accept. They'd be fools not to...

[This message has been edited by TIDE-HSV (edited 04-22-2004).]
 

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I've still got a plaid Alabama baseball cap from Wimp's time. I sure liked him as a coach, but now he's giving legal commentary?

I think the big question about the Gallion case is will it be settled before a trial.
 

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I thought Gallion was crazy when he started all this. I later thought he just might have enough to survive summary judgment. Now I'm starting to wonder how many of the defendants are either going to roll over or pay money to get out of it before a Tuscaloosa jury starts arguing over how many zeros are in a million.

Wimp was a good basketball coach, great recruiter, incredibly competitive, and achieved a lot. He is also just a little bit nuts and still can't understand why he's not the head basketball coach at the University of Alabama. He's also getting paid to make sure people listen and one measure of that is how many call in. It's mostly the angry ones who want to disagree that pick up the phone.

Short answer -- I wouldn't worry too much about what Wimp thinks.
 

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Onebama#1 fan, you're right, Wimp doesn't think!...... period.

TIDE-HSV is correct, Wimp has so much bitterness toward Bama that in spite of him being employed in Ala and 85% of his callers are Bama fans, he cannot keep the sour grapes from creeping out.

I'm not basing this on your post, at one time I was a regular listener but his part on the Sonny and Wimp show is so mundane that I can't stomach it anylonger.

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TideFaninFl

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Will Ronnie and Ivy settle for the cash? Sure, eventually, however I suspect that some people are keeping them "happy" to not settle to early. Gallion will get paid when the settlement is reached. I think this is going the LONG haul, much to the ncaa's and UT's displeasure.
 

W. Tidehill

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Posted By Bamalaw92 {What if an attorney agrees with the basketball coach??}
Bamalaw, I'm no attorney neither did I stay at a Holidayinn express.
Wouldn't you agree though, That this all hinges on the ncaa being able to prove the charges against Alabama that Cottrell and Williams were allegedly involved in are true? And do you agree Cottrell and William's careers have been destroyed because of this investigation? Do you think that Gallion has adequately proven thus far, that the ncaa was beyond reckless in this investigation? Have RC and IW suffered monetary damages because of this reckless investigation?
I'm not trying to be a smartA--, your an attorney and I'm not, I just kind of thought RC and IW's case meets the criteria for a defamation suit.
Would you explain why you don't think they will win? I'm just interested.
 

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It's important to remember that Gallion has proven nothing at all. He's only alleged certain facts and "leaked" and implied certain others through press conferences. I'm not jumping on you; it's just that I've seen a number of posts stating that Gallion has "proved" this or that. My guess is that our friend is saying that he doesn't believe that Gallion can prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, his allegations. It's my personal belief that Gallion has indeed alleged, and released, more than he could probably prove. It's a common practice of trial lawyers. After all, why aim low?
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TIDE-HSV:
It's important to remember that Gallion has proven nothing at all. He's only alleged certain facts and "leaked" and implied certain others through press conferences. I'm not jumping on you; it's just that I've seen a number of posts stating that Gallion has "proved" this or that. My guess is that our friend is saying that he doesn't believe that Gallion can prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, his allegations. It's my personal belief that Gallion has indeed alleged, and released, more than he could probably prove. It's a common practice of trial lawyers. After all, why aim low?
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I agree with you 100%. Gallion has proven nothing. Yet! But I have to ask, not Bama fans mind you, but the rest of the nonbelievers this. Where's the NCAA's proof against Bama by a preponderance of the evidence, their allegations?

Is Bama not due the same justice, as the NCAA?
 

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Morally, yes. Legally, no. As a private organization to which we belong voluntarily, the NCAA only owed us that they follow their own rules - not real justice. In our appeal, we maintained they did not follow their own rules and our PTB declined to pursue the matter into court. Gallion is alleging that, not only did the NCAA not follow its own rules, it did far, far, more to his clients. Does that open further options for UA, should it go to court and the plaintiffs win - possibly...
 

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We are getting a bit hung up on the semantics here, aren't we?

It's not a criminal trial, so *proof* (beyond a shadow of a doubt) isn't the light this should be looked under.

Gallion and company are basically pushing forward the idea of "defamation of character," right?

That, is a totally different set of rules.

I think a lot of Bama fans are hoping for more than what Gallion is asking for in this case. Gallion has certainly dangled that idea in front of the fan base...to that, there is no doubt.

HOWEVER, it's important to remember what is at the crux of this case. It's Cottrell and Williams career options now and in the future.

Have their reputations been damaged? I think that's clear and proven based on the NCAA 'scripts alone.
 
Originally posted by TerryP:
We are getting a bit hung up on the semantics here, aren't we?

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Not at all Terry. Tide Fans need to say how they feel about what someone's says about our beloved Alabama. Some people just can't stand former coaches giving Alabama the business. Sure there are times when its taken out of context but people would rather fight for Alabama and will not stand for anyone talking about her (Alabama). Wimp is a bitter man and it really matters not what he thinks only what we all know, that we love the Tide and are willing stand our ground against all who speak ill of the Alabama Crimson Tide. No matter how petty.
 

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