Stay Classy, Mack Brown: "It wouldn't even have been close"...

[TideEngineer08]

Without commenting on "what if's", i keep reading about Saban "calling off the dogs" as if he was being merciful. He curled up and went into a shell on offense because he thought he could sit on an 18 point lead and didn't trust his offense to not turn the ball. It had pretty much been a comedy of errors to that point.

As to what would have happened, who knows? But rather than calling off the dogs it would be more accurate to say he curled up into the fetal position.

LOL... whatever dude. No one was in a fetal position. They did go into a shell, but turns out we had a QB who was hurt too. Only difference was, he actually played the entire game. It's unfortunate, but kudos to Texas for not quitting.

Oh, and I wouldn't call steamrolling the Texas defense with 2 100 yard rushers a comedy of errors.:rolleye2:

 

[jangalang]

Without commenting on "what if's", i keep reading about Saban "calling off the dogs" as if he was being merciful. He curled up and went into a shell on offense because he thought he could sit on an 18 point lead and didn't trust his offense to not turn the ball. It had pretty much been a comedy of errors to that point.

As to what would have happened, who knows? But rather than calling off the dogs it would be more accurate to say he curled up into the fetal position.

I agree. We got too conservative when we should've went for the kill.

Regardless, the game is over and we are champs! :BigA:

 

[Relayer]

Excellent article.

The first 4-5 paragraphs were especially interesting.

 

[Relayer]

But rather than calling off the dogs it would be more accurate to say he curled up into the fetal position.

That's your characterization of it. That makes you feel better about it, in some way. We get it.

 

[TidePrideGA]

Without commenting on "what if's", i keep reading about Saban "calling off the dogs" as if he was being merciful. He curled up and went into a shell on offense because he thought he could sit on an 18 point lead and didn't trust his offense to not turn the ball. It had pretty much been a comedy of errors to that point.

As to what would have happened, who knows? But rather than calling off the dogs it would be more accurate to say he curled up into the fetal position.

I was not happy with the conservative approach in the 3rd quarter, but we made plays when we had to, and that's what brought home the championship.

 

[CapitalTider]

Without commenting on "what if's", i keep reading about Saban "calling off the dogs" as if he was being merciful. He curled up and went into a shell on offense because he thought he could sit on an 18 point lead and didn't trust his offense to not turn the ball. It had pretty much been a comedy of errors to that point.

As to what would have happened, who knows? But rather than calling off the dogs it would be more accurate to say he curled up into the fetal position.

I'm sure you mean curling up into a fetal position as some kind of insult, so I will point to the scoreboard.

I agree that we might have gotten too conservative with the play calling, but instead of deriding that I would take it as a compliment to UT's fine defense. I guess we should have forced more passes into your outstanding secondary to give UT a chance to win? Freshman QB, 18 point lead, top ranked defense, smart money says go into fetal position as you like to call it.

 

[crimsonaudio]

But rather than calling off the dogs it would be more accurate to say he curled up into the fetal position.

You think Saban was scared? We scored 17 offensive points in the second quarter. We were having our way with you. CNS did what he's done all year long with big leads - sit on them and let the defense shut the other team down.

Fetal position? I think that's more of what Brown was in after the game, crying like a new born...

 

[Crimson Cat]

I got this off the SoonerScoop board tongue-in-cheek in reference to UT's excuses for the loss...

"If we woulda taken a knee before halftime"
"if we would not have had 5 interceptions and fumbles"
"if Colt"
"If we would have stopped the Alabama running game"
"if Malcolm Williams could catch the football"
"if the refs were not so pro-Alabama"
"if Sergio did not tackle by the facemask"

 

[RTR_UA#1]

Too many Texas fans I see have already been calling the final scores by the Tide "classless".

What are we supposed to do...... let Texas win?

 

[DrollTide]

Mack's statement is

- a slam on his new starting QB
- an admission of lack of preparation of McCoy's backup
- an admission that Texas was wholly dependent on one player, creating what engineers call a single point of FAILURE

 

[Gallowglas]

I really, really hate that Colt got hurt. I would have liked to have seen how our D matched up with the guy. However, injuries are part of the game. It's like us musing over how the game would have gone were Hightower not injured or McElroy completely healthy or had Rolando not gotten sick a few days before the game. It happens. If you hang your hat on one player, don't try to cheapen our win when that player gets taken out by a clean hit.

 

[Leeroy]

I hate that a classy kid like McCoy had to play for that dillweed.




Roll Tide

 

[RTR_UA#1]

I really, really hate that Colt got hurt. I would have liked to have seen how our D matched up with the guy. However, injuries are part of the game. It's like us musing over how the game would have gone were Hightower not injured or McElroy completely healthy or had Rolando not gotten sick a few days before the game. It happens. If you hang your hat on one player, don't try to cheapen our win when that player gets taken out by a clean hit.

YES!!
The Tide would have ROLLED ANYWAY!!

 

[Troy Chimes]

When you lose, you make excuses!! ROLL TIDE!!:BigA:

 

[TRU]

This is not how football works. You play the hand you are dealt. If you're up by 18, you play differently than if you are down by 10. If Bama is down by 10, we don't mount clock-eating drives late in the 4th. yadda yadda

Agreed, it is what it is. Colt got hurt and was done for the night. That is part of the roll of the dice, along with the weather and getting stuck with Rocky Goode's officiating team. IF McCoy did not get hurt, the outcome might have been different. But that does not change the fact that that what happened did happen.

All in all, it would have been nice if he had not gotten hurt and the outcome was the same. But I tend to agree with Mack that had things gone differently, the outcome could have been different too.

 

[P. C. Pachyderm]

"On my ring, it's not going to say, 'Beat Texas without Colt,' " Tide quarterback Greg McElroy said. "It's going to say, '14-0, national champions.' "

Bellwether defense rings in Alabama's victory

 

[TRU]

Mack's statement is

- a slam on his new starting QB
- an admission of lack of preparation of McCoy's backup
- an admission that Texas was wholly dependent on one player, creating what engineers call a single point of FAILURE

All true.

But when are they going to pick up on his down at the Barn? You know, "Alabama claims the NC in 2009-2010, but they only got it because Texas's star QB was hurt. It does not really count".

At least they did not get a chance to paper Toomers' to celebrate Bama's loss. I bet tht they were already hauling the toilet paper cases out to the intersection after the first 5 minutes.

 

[trenda]

Without commenting on "what if's", i keep reading about Saban "calling off the dogs" as if he was being merciful. He curled up and went into a shell on offense because he thought he could sit on an 18 point lead and didn't trust his offense to not turn the ball. It had pretty much been a comedy of errors to that point.

As to what would have happened, who knows? But rather than calling off the dogs it would be more accurate to say he curled up into the fetal position.

Didn't trust his offense to not turn the ball over????? Bama's offense didn't turn it over once ---- as has been there habit all season. The punter threw and interception and Texas recovered a fumble on a kickoff.

Bama went conservative in their playcalling in the third quarter, but it was not because he didn't trust his offense NOT to turn the ball over. Bama's offense just doesn't do that. Bama had 117 yds of offense in the second quarter, scored 24 points and had complete momentum coming out of the half. Why would he be "curled up into the fetal position"??????

Concerning the 'if' game, IF Texas had taken advantage of those two HUGE gifts to open the game and scored TDs instead of FGs, maybe the game would have been different. IF Mack Brown had just run out the clock at the end of the half instead of calling timeout to try a shovel pass -- that was intercepted and returned for a TD, maybe the game would have been different. IF the Texas D had been able to live up to their lofty ranking, maybe the game would have been different. IF McCoy were tough enough to take the punishment of a Bama hit, maybe the game would have been different. IF Texas' offense weren't a one-trick pony, maybe the game would have been different. IF Texas hadn't turned the ball over FIVE times, maybe the game would have been different.

I give Texas credit for not giving up, taking advantage of Bama hitting the snooze button and gutting it out to the end. However, at the end of the day, when McCoy went down, Texas had to rely on a freshman QB slinging it 40 times to have a chance. They couldn't lean on their running game to help the inexperienced kid out. They absolutely had no other choice but to send him in and try to do the one thing that the star of their offense could do well. And he threw for 186 and 2 TDs, without any help from a running game.

Texas couldn't run and couldn't stop the run. Period. And that cost them, IMO.

 

[ontopp]

This is as good a thread as any to post this.

I'm sure the Texas fans feel they probably would have won with McCoy in. If I were them, I'm sure I'd feel the same way. The way we were sputtering around out there at times, it's possible we could have lost with McCoy playing. It's also very possible we would have won.

But you can't ask, "What if McCoy had played" without also asking some other questions:

What if Dont'a Hightower had played? Dont'a would have been another McClain/Dareus caliber of athlete on the field ... and our best pass rusher.

What if Ro had been 100 per cent instead of still feeling the effects of the stomach virus? What if McElroy wasn't playing with cracked ribs? What if Marquis Johnson didn't have a bum thumb?

What if we hadn't lost Ingram to leg cramps for a key portion of the second half when Texas was making their comeback?

What if Damion Square had played? Another potential big play pass rusher.

What if Sam Bradford had not gone down in the UT/OU game ... would UT even have been there last night?

I'm just saying, when you start asking what ifs, you can't just pick and choose.

McCoy going out had a big impact on the game, no question. It's even possible it made a difference in the outcome ... no one knows. (Coach Brown's "It wouldn't even have been close" is laughable.)

As I say, if I were a UT fan I'm sure I'd feel my team lost because of an injury. But it's part of the game ... and it's not like Colt hurt himself on some freak practice injury. Bama knocked him out with physical football.

It is what it is.

I have to say You put in perspective!:BigA:

 

[CrimsonMapper]

We beat several very good teams without slipping up. All you can do is play the teams on your schedule with the players they put out there. I've said it on here several times today. What do they want us to do, stop play until Colt was healthy. Maybe they wanted us not to accept the trophy. What a joke.