Auburn will be (IS) a first class wreck

[gwilliams]

I don't think the PTB at auburn are worried at all about fired coaches telling where bodies are buried. Even if a fired coach tells something aka tator tot, auburn could have on file a signed statement where the fired coach attest he knows of no violations occurring or that occurred under his watch. Fired coach has effectively refuted in advance any future statement about a violation he may later be inclined to discuss. (Fired also being the same as getting hired away by another college).

The fired coach gets the buy out/severence pay if and only if he signs the statement. I'd guess also that the signing of a statement to get buy out money may be in the original hiring contract so as to avoid any problems on the back end of a tenure. The fired coach is in a bind, if he says he knows of violations, he can simply be fired for the violations occurring under his auspices and he gets no money. So, he has to sign that he knows of no violations or he gets no money. Slick legal move.

Disclosure: I have no direct knowledge of any wording in any coaches contract. This is conjecture supported only indirectly by past writings which vaguely referred to such contract wording. Who knows, all college coaches may be in the same boat. assuming there is such a boat???

 

[RTR91]

If you can, turn to Finebaum now and listen to Pat Dye.

 

[RTR91]

Dye just said he doesn't think Auburn will win a SEC game this year and that a win this week will be an upset.

 

[Crimson1967]

I don't think the PTB at auburn are worried at all about fired coaches telling where bodies are buried. Even if a fired coach tells something aka tator tot, auburn could have on file a signed statement where the fired coach attest he knows of no violations occurring or that occurred under his watch. Fired coach has effectively refuted in advance any future statement about a violation he may later be inclined to discuss. (Fired also being the same as getting hired away by another college).

The fired coach gets the buy out/severence pay if and only if he signs the statement. I'd guess also that the signing of a statement to get buy out money may be in the original hiring contract so as to avoid any problems on the back end of a tenure. The fired coach is in a bind, if he says he knows of violations, he can simply be fired for the violations occurring under his auspices and he gets no money. So, he has to sign that he knows of no violations or he gets no money. Slick legal move.

Disclosure: I have no direct knowledge of any wording in any coaches contract. This is conjecture supported only indirectly by past writings which vaguely referred to such contract wording. Who knows, all college coaches may be in the same boat. assuming there is such a boat???

In Scarbo's column the other day he deatiled Cheesy's buyout. It did say he gets zero if he is fired for breaking NCAA rules. So if he says he knows all about Cam getting money, he would be admitting he was in on it (even if he had no direct involvement), it could give API an out on his buyout.

It also said while he would be due $7.5 million if he is fired after this season, it is paid off in monthly installments (about $200,000 if he goes after this season) and any money he makes from a new job would be deducted from that amount, just like we got a break from Shula's pay when he got an NFL job.

 

[cbi1972]

It's right next to the fibia and below the femus.

Very humerus

 

[GrayTide]

IMO, if the boogs think for 1 minute they can get Petrino, Chizik is the former au coach who won a NC.

 

[Florida Tom]

Is there something New out there on Troopa Taylor, I heard he is not out recruiting & been told to lower the profile?

 

[gmoney]

FREEZER BURN

Auburn: How far have the Tigers fallen just two years after winning the national championship? They travel to Vanderbilt this weekend, and the Commodores -- who are just 1-13 against Auburn since 1950 -- are a touchdown favorite.

 

[TheCrimsonLiver]

FREEZER BURN

Auburn: How far have the Tigers fallen just two years after winning the national championship? They travel to Vanderbilt this weekend, and the Commodores -- who are just 1-13 against Auburn since 1950 -- are a touchdown favorite.

This is PRICELESS

 

[BradtheImpaler]

FREEZER BURN

Auburn: How far have the Tigers fallen just two years after winning the national championship? They travel to Vanderbilt this weekend, and the Commodores -- who are just 1-13 against Auburn since 1950 -- are a touchdown favorite.

If Vanderbilt plays like they did against Missouri, they'll beat Auburn by two touchdowns.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Is there something New out there on Troopa Taylor, I heard he is not out recruiting & been told to lower the profile?

Isn't it quiet period until late November? I don't think anyone can be out recruiting right now.

 

[Ty Webb]

Mark my words. The 2012 Auburn football season is going to be a first class cluster.

I know they are somewhere just north of 70 scholarship players for 2012. I have a good sense that of that number, they will be able to count on somewhere around 65. Seven guys have been run off or quit. Another two might not make it.

Of the skill players they signed in 2012, they might get two or three on the field. Of the senior leadership they expected this season... well, I don't want to get ugly.

In 2010, I picked Auburn as my Dark Horse candidate to win the SEC, so I'm not just homering.

From what I've seen in the offseason, during spring practice and fall camp...

Coach 5-19 is back in his toothless glory.

Wow, this is my first time reading the OP. Are you an Auburn coach or player?

 

[Rama Jama]

Translation of Pat Dye's comments on Finebaum today.
I still support Chizik -Translation-Petrino even said he would not take the AU job.
We need a Quarterback to stand up- Translation- Time to buy another QB. Hey, Bobby you got your checkbook with you?

 

[OBMS]

Isn't it quiet period until late November? I don't think anyone can be out recruiting right now.

This is an "evaluation period"

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect...+NCAA+Division+I+Football+Recruiting+Calendar

Publish date: Aug 16, 2012
August 1, 2012 through July 31, 2013

(See NCAA Division I Bylaw 13.17.4 for Football Calendar Formula)

The dates in this calendar reflect the application of Bylaw 13.17.4 at the time of publication of this document but are subject to change per NCAA Constitution 5.2.3.1 or if certain dates change (e.g., National Letter of Intent signing dates).

(a) August 1 through November 24, 2012, [except for (1) below]: Quiet Period

(1) 42 evaluation days (54 for U.S. service academies) (see Bylaw 13.02.6.2) during the months of September, October and November, (not to exceed a period of 42 days) selected at the discretion of the institution and designated in writing in the office of the director of athletics; authorized off-campus recruiters shall not visit a prospective student-athlete’s educational institution on more than one calendar day during this period: Evaluation Period



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[BamaSC]

Isn't it quiet period until late November? I don't think anyone can be out recruiting right now.

Finebaum was openly questioning Trooper's diminished role at the barn. Said he asked a prominent barner about it and he/she refused the answer. Made it sound like there may be NCAA issues with Trooper. Of course, this could be typical stirring of the pot by him.

 

[We_are_Bama]

What's even funnier is, compare our dark days to the barn's current state. I know our 1997 team was better than this current barn team, but now, I'm starting to think that even our teams in 2000 and 2003 were better as well. None of those teams ever started 1-5. Plus, think about this. We had seasons of 3-8, 4-9, 6-6, and 6-7 after being debilitated by probation. When we were at our worst, we at least had sanctions as a reason why things were so bad. Can they say the same? They certainly can't say they have been crippled by sanctions.

 

[RTR91]

Finebaum was openly questioning Trooper's diminished role at the barn. Said he asked a prominent barner about it and he/she refused the answer. Made it sound like there may be NCAA issues with Trooper. Of course, this could be typical stirring of the pot by him.

The first I heard of anything with Trooper was last week on Finebaum.

Caller said he heard a recruit had a Facebook post about not hearing anything from Trooper or Auburn in awhile, so the guy asked if something was up with Trooper. Finebaum said he didn't know, but there are some reporters trying to find out. He went on to say, "I can tell you this: if you were to call the Auburn athletic department and ask about a NCAA investigation, you won't get an answer."

 

[mikes12]

The first I heard of anything with Trooper was last week on Finebaum.

Caller said he heard a recruit had a Facebook post about not hearing anything from Trooper or Auburn in awhile, so the guy asked if something was up with Trooper. Finebaum said he didn't know, but there are some reporters trying to find out. He went on to say, "I can tell you this: if you were to call the Auburn athletic department and ask about a NCAA investigation, you won't get an answer."

In fairness, that's probably true of 99% of schools. If anything, you'd just get transferred to the compliance dept, which would probably give you some standard 'no comment' answer.

 

[Highway59]

While jim chiznika ponders just how things have gone so bad.....

He really needs to look over his shoulder and see how the most "loyal fanbase on the face of the planet", the aubies, have got his back.

:biggrin2:

 

[colbysullivan]

after the dye interview, an auburn fan called in and said something to this effect (paraphrasing):

"i will call you back in a year and remind you i was right. chizik's staying...the coordinators are all staying. here's what auburn is gonna do. they're gonna go out and get a quarterback, because that's all we really need. we are one player away pawwwwwwlll. then we're gonna go out and get 2 big running backs and we'll be back. i'll call you back next year."

the funniest part is he was completely serious