Jameis Winston investigated for sexual assault - and...no charges to be filed...

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There's an elephant in the room here. I think that it's generally agreed that the basis of non-consensual sex is not sexual gratification at all. It's a crime of violence and dominance. There seems to be no question at this point that the roomie was present throughout. So, was it a case of "Hey, watch this!" If the rape kit shows evidence of violent penetration, where does this leave roomie. If it were forced, then any experienced prosecutor can take the roomie's testimony and tear it to shreds in no time. I'm not going to project possible dialogs, but I'm sure you can imagine them. The first question is why the roomie hung around, rather than saying "Bud, I'm outta here." If it were for show, that's damaging in itself...

The police report said the suspect was 5'7. With the talk about at least one witness, I have to wonder if it was more than just Winston violating any law (ala BYU 2004).
 
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I seen a documentary of Ted Bundy & some of Bundy's friends said the exact same thing..You just never know how bad some of your friends can be..
A lot of violent criminals have people who would swear by them. Most people keep their darker side a secret. Most children who are sexually abused are done so at the hands of trusted family members or friends. No one truly knows another person, or what they're capable of.
 
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If this comes out to be true, I will admit it is not the first time that someone has fooled me. He will have fooled many who I know that are close to him. I do hope people will reserve judgement on both parties until all facts are known and if he did do this then I will have no sympathy for him.

You have not only been a great supporter of Jamis but added really good insight about him. When this all broke I really felt hurt for you & what must be going thru your mind now.


I do not see where anyone other than lawyers gain anything about this.

The poor girl this happened to & me for having some doubts because of all the Duke Lacrosse team fiasco.

The police may be in some serious trouble & some careers may be ruined.

FSU could as BB suggested suffer some punishment like PSU if events take that direction.

And yes Jamis, a talent that may be ruined very early.

Im sad for the whole lot but especially for one of our own, who is a very sincere poster.

I just hope the truth comes out real soon.
 
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You have not only been a great supporter of Jamis but added really good insight about him. When this all broke I really felt hurt for you & what must be going thru your mind now.


I do not see where anyone other than lawyers gain anything about this.

The poor girl this happened to & me for having some doubts because of all the Duke Lacrosse team fiasco.

The police may be in some serious trouble & some careers may be ruined.

FSU could as BB suggested suffer some punishment like PSU if events take that direction.

And yes Jamis, a talent that may be ruined very early.

Im sad for the whole lot but especially for one of our own, who is a very sincere poster.

I just hope the truth comes out real soon.

If what I think happened is true then I only feel sorry for the girl. That's it.

But it if isn't then they should go after her!

Things look bad right now. They cannot even get their story straight.


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Don't know if this had been posted just got it off Twitter. http://deadspin.com/jameis-winston-...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Looks like they are starting to cannibalize each other down there already! ;)
Thanks for posting this & it's sickening to read this..I love college football as much as anyone, but, when stuff like this happens, makes ya lose respect for what the game has turned into off the field & in the classroom..Makes ya appreciates "The Process" even more & the right way things are ran under Coach Saban at Alabama..
 
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The police report said the suspect was 5'7. With the talk about at least one witness, I have to wonder if it was more than just Winston violating any law (ala BYU 2004).
I have had the same thoughts. If the roommates were witnesses, just how much did they "witness."
 
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Now that more information has come out what I can't get out of my head is the fact the woman apparently reported this fairly quickly after the incident and that she apparently did not know who he was until some time later. That seems to eliminate someone trying to profit from his celebrity even though he wasn't a famous starting QB at the time.

I know anything can happen but it would seem to me to take a lot for a woman to report something like this without, at least in her mind, there being something seriously inappropriate about what happened.
 
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Now that more information has come out what I can't get out of my head is the fact the woman apparently reported this fairly quickly after the incident and that she apparently did not know who he was until some time later. That seems to eliminate someone trying to profit from his celebrity even though he wasn't a famous starting QB at the time.

I know anything can happen but it would seem to me to take a lot for a woman to report something like this without, at least in her mind, there being something seriously inappropriate about what happened.

True, what fame did he have then.


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What's most sickening & scary being the daddy of two girls..Is the fact the TPD tried to have this swept under the rug & put more Ladies at risk, by allowing a star athlete back out in public to do it again..It's a good thing I'm on different blood pressure medicine, cause the more I read what the TPD did to cover this up, my blood pressure goes up.. I surely hope all that's involved in the cover-up..Loses their job & faces jail time themselves.Just sickening..The cover-up is just as bad as the crime..Just cause it allows it to happen again..
 
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Thanks for posting this & it's sickening to read this..I love college football as much as anyone, but, when stuff like this happens, makes ya lose respect for what the game has turned into off the field & in the classroom..Makes ya appreciates "The Process" even more & the right way things are ran under Coach Saban at Alabama..

Unfortunately, football is just a cross-section of our overall society. We had four players kicked off the team for armed robbery and assault. Some things the coaches just can't control.
 
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What's most sickening & scary being the daddy of two girls..Is the fact the TPD tried to have this swept under the rug & put more Ladies at risk, by allowing a star athlete back out in public to do it again..It's a good thing I'm on different blood pressure medicine, cause the more I read what the TPD did to cover this up, my blood pressure goes up.. I surely hope all that's involved in the cover-up..Loses their job & faces jail time themselves.Just sickening..The cover-up is just as bad as the crime..Just cause it allows it to happen again..
Another scary aspect is how the defense team would do everything they could to tarnish her reputation. They would bring up as much of her sexual past as they could. As a father, would you really want to hear this? There's probably stuff you wouldn't know, and wouldn't want to know. It's just another aspect of this that is sad and sickening which would just push a girl keep her silence.
 
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That isn't "exactly" what he said--still implies that it wasn't rape and says that the witnesses can prove it. I think he may be starting to back track, though as evidence comes out.

Sounds like he may know that the rape kit is going to damn his client, so he's already preparing folks to hear witnesses say, "oh no... she was totally into the rough stuff..."
 
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Another scary aspect is how the defense team would do everything they could to tarnish her reputation. They would bring up as much of her sexual past as they could. As a father, would you really want to hear this? There's probably stuff you wouldn't know, and wouldn't want to know. It's just another aspect of this that is sad and sickening which would just push a girl keep her silence.
And that's why I hope she's strong enough with her conviction to pursue this & allows him not to do this to another innocent Lady..Cause chances are, he did it once, he'll in all likelihood will do it again..
 
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The police report said the suspect was 5'7. With the talk about at least one witness, I have to wonder if it was more than just Winston violating any law (ala BYU 2004).
I'll have to re-read. I thought it was 5'11"...
 
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There are only two kinds of girls that actually consent to sex with someone they don't know, with an audience watching (presumably the roommate and/or others). One is with money changing hands. The other is just... freaky. I'm not saying that in a judgmental way (we all have a little freaky side), but I don't know how else to put it. Maybe exhibitionism mixed with a thrill seeking-risk taking personality.

Either way, neither of those go straight to the police afterwards.
 
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The more I've learned, the more sickened I've been. Regardless of what happened that night, some despicable stuff has happened, and it sure doesn't seem like the blame lies with the woman. TPD, JM, FSU, Jansen, maybe even Meggs... but I've yet to read a single thing that makes me believe she's "at fault" for anything going on here. The situation doesn't seem to fit a malicious false accusation, but I could be wrong. I just hope everyone gets a fair shake and that everyone who is guilty of misconduct faces appropriate consequences.
 
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I think the 5' 9" to 5' 11" thing is a fabrication of the TPD. From what I understand now, Winston was accused of this from the get-go, but the TPD didn't want that to be public.
And, besides the fact, how many people can accurately guess someone's height if they aren't in the doorway of a convenience store? Now that I am grown and know the height of a door frame, it is easier, but when I was 20, I would not have one clue how to guess a guys height.
 
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And, besides the fact, how many people can accurately guess someone's height if they aren't in the doorway of a convenience store? Now that I am grown and know the height of a door frame, it is easier, but when I was 20, I would not have one clue how to guess a guys height.

Let alone if you were 20 and had just been (allegedly) sexually assaulted. She may have said "average height" and they interpreted that to mean 5'9"-5'11." Frankly, with what we've heard thus far, it wouldn't shock me to find out that she said he was "tall" and they chose that to mean 5'9" - 5'11".
 
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