Saban signs multi-year extension w/Bama, shorthorns on suicide watch...

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I think Jimbo is the next in line behind Saban. I think he would take it!

I agree with both, but there is a problem - there is no way that Texas is going to ask for or get permission to talk to him until after the BCSCG, and Texas is not going to wait that long.
 
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Jimbo hasn't been treated very well at FSU by fans. He has been questioned a lot on his Offensive play calling over the years and his seat has been warm up until this year. His son has a rare blood disease and I think Austin can offer a lot more than the Tallahasse Medical Center. I lived there for 10 years and went to school at FSU.

You think? FSU has been pretty big time too over the past 30 years. I guess the Big 12 is a step up over the ACC...maybe
 
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You think? FSU has been pretty big time too over the past 30 years. I guess the Big 12 is a step up over the ACC...maybe

Texas is ranked as the number 1 (Alabama #2) school based on brand and $$ by Forbes, US News, et. al., while FSU is ranked around 15. So, yes, Texas would be a huge step up for Jimbo.
 
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Jimbo hasn't been treated very well at FSU by fans. He has been questioned a lot on his Offensive play calling over the years and his seat has been warm up until this year. His son has a rare blood disease and I think Austin can offer a lot more than the Tallahasse Medical Center. I lived there for 10 years and went to school at FSU.

Makes sense to me. I had not heard this info before.
 
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Looking at the big picture there's no way Saban's THE ONLY way we succeed and win championships. You do realize he will ultimately leave? So does that mean we're doomed for football eternity? I hope not. There is and will be a lot of very good coaches who can win at Bama. The most recent example Saban leaving a program is Les Miles. As goofy as that joker is look what kind of winning % he's thrown down since being there. I would think we could find someone AT LEAST as good as Miles to take over once Saban left.
How Saban leaves will make all the difference in the world though, and I hope he's really taking that into account. When he went from MSU to LSU, he was stepping into a different world. He went from the north to the south, he went from a little brother school to a big brother school, and while that's arguably his messiest transition, the stakes were so much lower. When he left LSU, it was for the NFL, so it had a limiting impact on recruits, players, and so on. He has absolutely no incentive to try to gut that program on his way out, he had incentive to try and insure a smooth transition.

If he retires, or leaves for the NFL, he can and will try to insure a smooth transition. If he leaves for Texas though? It's in his interest to burn the bridges on the way out. He'll want a lot of the staff he currently has at Alabama to follow him, he'll want a lot of recruits to follow him. I think it's completely unrealistic to assume any sort of a smooth transition, because you can't just leave your wife and go move in with the neighbor and expect things to go smoothly, especially if you insist in carting all your stuff over to your neighbor's house at the same time. It's not about finding a good replacement, it's about the fact that Alabama couldn't keep a lot of what Saban put into place.

You think? FSU has been pretty big time too over the past 30 years. I guess the Big 12 is a step up over the ACC...maybe
My understanding is that FSU is not in a position for a bidding war. I remember reading something a couple years ago about their finances not being so great, so even if it was simply money, they're not as capable and might not be as willing anyway, to pay up. FSU wanted in the Big 12 due to financial arrangements in the ACC.

Ironically, despite his shortcomings, Jimbo could be the better investment anyway. He's a lot younger, so you invest in Saban and you're getting what 5-7 years tops? Jimbo assuming a similar length to his career could delivery 20.
 
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Preferred scenario IF Saban leaves (and I don't think he does)

1 - Kirby Smart as head coach keeping majority of the coaching staff in place
2 - New big name hire, assuming that means majority of the current staff is gone.

Just something different to chew on since we have beaten the "does he stay or does he go" horse to death.
 
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Preferred scenario IF Saban leaves (and I don't think he does)

1 - Kirby Smart as head coach keeping majority of the coaching staff in place
2 - New big name hire, assuming that means majority of the current staff is gone.

Just something different to chew on since we have beaten the "does he stay or does he go" horse to death.

Frankly, don't even want to cross that bridge until I know we have to...
 
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Jimbo hasn't been treated very well at FSU by fans. He has been questioned a lot on his Offensive play calling over the years and his seat has been warm up until this year. His son has a rare blood disease and I think Austin can offer a lot more than the Tallahasse Medical Center. I lived there for 10 years and went to school at FSU.

FSU didn't renew his contract last year either.
 
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Can't Remeber which mod said look for then numbers to get more crazy from UT side but here ya go....
http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/12...sign-he-will-be-removed/#.Uqnp2hbCYDc.twitter

Last paragraph... 10-20 million pass the hat signing bonus

And this one is going to be "sourced" in the camp of the UT folks who are against Brown and Powers… the ones who are "convincing" all the Brown/Powers supporters that Saban is indeed willing to come to Austin. It WILL get worse until MB is actually gone.
 
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If he retires, or leaves for the NFL, he can and will try to insure a smooth transition. If he leaves for Texas though? It's in his interest to burn the bridges on the way out. He'll want a lot of the staff he currently has at Alabama to follow him, he'll want a lot of recruits to follow him. I think it's completely unrealistic to assume any sort of a smooth transition, because you can't just leave your wife and go move in with the neighbor and expect things to go smoothly, especially if you insist in carting all your stuff over to your neighbor's house at the same time. It's not about finding a good replacement, it's about the fact that Alabama couldn't keep a lot of what Saban put into place.

I wouldn't expect an incoming coach wanting to keep much of the previous staff anyway. Especially if the coach we hire is a big name coach of any sorts. Also, regarding players. He could only take the recruits that are haven't signed a LOI unless he expects players who are already on the team to transfer and sit out a year. I don't think too many would do that, IMO.

There's no way a material amount of the players on the roster transfers so the incoming coach would have some great talent to work with. With the right hire, though there'd be a drop off initially, I don't think it would be as devastating as you're describing.
 
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Just watched on ESPN, A.J. McCarron say he doesn't believe coach Saban is leaving, along with other comments he made..
 
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Just watched on ESPN, A.J. McCarron say he doesn't believe coach Saban is leaving, along with other comments he made..
Not being rude, but he has been saying that since last night.
 
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This is just laughable!! All of you thinking Coach Saban is going to leave. I haven't read all the posts here, so if I say something that has already been said, forgive me. Coach has said he's not leaving. Terri Saban told the WSJ they're going to retire here! He supposedly has told a few recruits that he isn't going anywhere. This is all just a 'why can't everybody listen and believe?' bunch of people! He said on his live radio show that he was "too _____ old to start over." I know, I know , Texas has a big wallet. But guys don't think for a minute that Coach wants to go through another 'Miami' exit. I believe he truly regrets how that all panned out. And he isn't going through that again. I look at it this way: He has built a program here that is second to none. He's done it the right way, taught these players about life and not just football, and there is no way under the sun he's going to put his integrity and character on the line again. Have we become a people that is nothing but suspicious and can't trust ANYONE?!? And I think its humorous now because he hasn't said anything since being offered the extension and not signing it: I think he's doing it on purpose just to get a rise out of all of you and seeing if anybody who is a Bama fan even trusts him! Oh, I'm finished ranting! Hey, if he goes, I'll eat crow! I've had to do it before! But I firmly believe there will be no crow to eat but, instead, it will be a bunch of the fans swimming in their own tears after whining and worrying about Coach Saban's leaving!!! And NO, I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO COULD AFFIRM WHAT I'VE SAID!!! I just trust Coach Saban!!! I'm Tider70, and I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE!!!
 

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