Immaturity and thinking too much of one's self rarely make a good combination. Let's hope young Mr. Brown is capable of learning from this mistake and doesn't repeat it in the future.
Tide Sports Reporting Tony Brown Arrest
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Sound wisdom.
If a cop is wrong, take it up with his supervisor the next day when adrenaline is not flowing and tempers are cool.
That said, I cannot say Tony Brown is a thug (or not). I wasn't there and have no evidence on which to base such an assessment. I bet Coach Saban will get to the bottom of it, however.
And when he does, I doubt if he lets us in on it. We may find out from other sources, but I find it unlikely CNS will share his involvement and instructions to young Mr Brown over his indiscretions. Still...not a good thing to get on Coach's bad side before even the first practice. But on the other hand, it will be good if Mr Brown learns from this little incident and focuses on his football and education. It will make him much richer and smarter in the long run. Roll Tide!
One thing he has hopefully learned - that big tall pedestal that ESPN, the recruiting services, the college recruiters, the hangers on, et all have been putting him on for the past few years just got kicked out from underneath him. I'm not saying that you should always cower down to the police, but when they tell you to back off and shut the *** up, you should back off and shut the **** up. You may have a chance against them in a courtroom, but you don't have much of a chance against them at the scene. You going to lose that one 100% of the time if you don't do what they say. All we've heard so far is that he bowed up to defend a friend, and got caught up in the mix. That can be looked at a few ways by our staff, but in the end Saban will do what is best for the team. No matter how talented a player may be, if it's the right thing to do to let him go then you have to let him go (see "locker room cancer" Terrell Owens). But if the right thing to do is punish him and keep him around to teach him more life lessons and help him succeed in life, then so be it too. We'll let people closer to the scene make that call, no matter what the Bama haters say about the situation.
Absolutely right. We'll never hear about the results, regardless. Not our job, anyway. But it is Coach Saban's.
Then apparently you made some bad decisions -- that doesn't justify making bad decisions is my point.
Stupidity is a reason -- not an excuse..... there should be penalties for making mistakes -- and maybe for being stupid.
But, those 5-6 times, had you made different choices, you wouldn't have been in those situations to have almost gotten arrested.....
I just don't buy the "oh we were all young and stupid" as justification for getting arrested....lots of kids never get arrested -- whether it be by the Grace of God -- or because they didn't do anything stupid. If you know the actions you are taking COULD get you thrown in jail and you choose to do them anyway -- than that's all on the person making those decisions.
Is he a thug? Maybe - Maybe not....but he's not that mature -- not that smart -- or maybe he's trying to generate some 'Cred' -- as many kids now wear getting arrested like a 'Badge of Honor' ---
It's almost sad, but I still err to the side of Tony Brown atm. Without a full set of fact, I just don't know what to think. The reason being comes from several things that I know DO happen...even if they didn't in this case. I have several friends who became cops. I don't hang out with them anymore. Why? Because they changed when they got the badge, and turned into every bit the...well you know...that a lot of people claim them to be. That is ALL to rampant with the younger generation of officers. I don't know why, but it is. I also know how easy it is to get profiled by police. I've seen it first hand many times. i won't speak on this further, because it turns into a huge NS thing...but it is a real problem in our state (just like being pulled over for being young after midnight). Also, there are lots of college towns where police are OVERLY against athletes/fraternities/campus parties etc...
Two different examples.. I know lots of people who went to JSU. It was almost like a spinoff of my high school with the sheer number of people who went there after they graduated. The general rule of partying there? Keep it in your yard (if on campus) and you won't get bothered. Off campus, keep it in your house/apartment and you're typically okay.
Now...take a place like *U. I have a ton of friends who went to school there also. There are a lot of the police down there (oddly enough) that will give you a hard time if you are an athlete. They are waiting on trouble to happen with them. You're a normal student having a party though (somewhere athletes don't hang out typically), you'll probably be okay as long as it doesn't spread outside into the streets. Have a party at a place athletes are known to visit/hang out...cops will be there, and will be trying to bust you.
Now i don't know if either is the case at UA, in Tuscaloosa, or the surrounding areas (outside of the strip...you act out on the strip you're getting arrested, period...i don't care who you are), but it SEEMS to me (with limited knowledge) that the force used against Brown was excessive. So, I'll let CNS handle the problems and hope tony just lays low for the rest of the spring/fall/his career.
Two different examples.. I know lots of people who went to JSU. It was almost like a spinoff of my high school with the sheer number of people who went there after they graduated. The general rule of partying there? Keep it in your yard (if on campus) and you won't get bothered. Off campus, keep it in your house/apartment and you're typically okay.
Now...take a place like *U. I have a ton of friends who went to school there also. There are a lot of the police down there (oddly enough) that will give you a hard time if you are an athlete. They are waiting on trouble to happen with them. You're a normal student having a party though (somewhere athletes don't hang out typically), you'll probably be okay as long as it doesn't spread outside into the streets. Have a party at a place athletes are known to visit/hang out...cops will be there, and will be trying to bust you.
Now i don't know if either is the case at UA, in Tuscaloosa, or the surrounding areas (outside of the strip...you act out on the strip you're getting arrested, period...i don't care who you are), but it SEEMS to me (with limited knowledge) that the force used against Brown was excessive. So, I'll let CNS handle the problems and hope tony just lays low for the rest of the spring/fall/his career.
Why can't everyone just agree to disagree... Everyone has their opinions, seems like everyone is starting to get a little defensive of their opinions. Shouldnt have to be like that. I'm sure everyone is going to disagree with something about it.
There were probably better ways to handle the situation, yes. But, we don't know why he was pushing back against the police. Either way, he made a choice to do something that turned out negative on his behalf. Hopefully he learns from it. If not, I don't see him playing in a bama uniform. Still, no way to start your collegiate career.
There were probably better ways to handle the situation, yes. But, we don't know why he was pushing back against the police. Either way, he made a choice to do something that turned out negative on his behalf. Hopefully he learns from it. If not, I don't see him playing in a bama uniform. Still, no way to start your collegiate career.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us7lFHcvTQA
Watching the video of him committing and finding out his backstory, I think this is not an indication of him as a person.
If that's the official police report, I hope they find someone who can spell the word "crowd" correctly.
Watching the video of him committing and finding out his backstory, I think this is not an indication of him as a person.
I'm interested in what CNS thoughts are on this. I doubt he will address the media about it though.
Bad behavior for sure, but as it's probably not a felony charge, he still doesn't meet the minimum qualifications for an AU quarterback...
And it probably isn't an indication. Probably, he got caught up in his new surroundings, his stature as a future star at Bama, and his newfound introduction to 'Campus life'. A month ago he was still in High School.
Everyone on this board realizes that's quite a leap. I'm sure he will get an attitude adjustment quickly after this. A good opportunity for CNS to demostrate his leadership abilities and why he's so worth the money to stay with Bama.
Roll Tide!
Did *U have some players killed at one of these friendly little parties last year? I wonder if these mean old rogue cops everyone talks about set that up or if it was just a bunch of dumb@%$ kids. But of course I remember the cops getting a lot of the blame on that too seems like those dudes don't have a chance, I wouldn't be a cop for love nor money. Too many armchair quarterbacks and mamas boys around. Ill tell you this if I had done what Brown alleged to have done my dad would have been there to bond me out and then he would have beat the hell out of me, period. Then it would be up to me to explain my actions or defend my own rear end. I think maybe, just maybe my mom and dad were on to something when they took me to church and busted my but when I did something wrong and they taught me to respect my elders and people in authority....I don't know maybe Im the crazy one but if you grab the bull you will get the horn. I am not going to defend Brown or the police nor am I going to condem them. Ill let it play out, but I can tell you I don't think he would have been arrested had the police not had reason to be there.
Not a great start to his career, for sure. I would imagine a game or 2 suspension come the season. So those of here predicting he would start day 1, you can forget about it. I do hope he can stay away from these bad influences and find better friends if that be the cause. Since the guy who was arrested has had previous arrests, that is a bad sign.
I hope he can be a contributor to not only football, but track this season.
I hope he can be a contributor to not only football, but track this season.
Brown evidently was a bad boy and showed poor judgment in a tense situation, with pepper spray being used to help calm things down, of all things.
Hopefully he will learn that he needs to respect the trouble a policeman can bring down on him, regardless of who's in the right.
A little off topic, but I seem to remember a long time ago we were discussing another football player who got arrested in T'town, only to find out later it was a barner cop who even had a barner tag on his cop car.
When I hear about an arrest I don't automatically assume the facts are exactly what the cops say they are.
Hopefully he will learn that he needs to respect the trouble a policeman can bring down on him, regardless of who's in the right.
A little off topic, but I seem to remember a long time ago we were discussing another football player who got arrested in T'town, only to find out later it was a barner cop who even had a barner tag on his cop car.
When I hear about an arrest I don't automatically assume the facts are exactly what the cops say they are.
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With the latest reports on police/civilian interactions, I can't help but wonder if I would keep my calm or not in a situation with them. 15 years ago, no question, but lately?
Until the facts come out, I am not believing the hype. Too many times it comes out that the charges were overblown and dropped by the DA or the cops altogether. I can't believe we have people on here posting their two cents like they were there and witnessed it. SMH......
I agree.
(at 12:53 am on 1/19/14)
But not much good happens after midnight when after midnight is mixed with alcohol, etc.
As a father, I'd ask Tony why he was not in bed sleeping or if he was up, why wasn't he studying to make the Honor Roll.
Do freshmen football players at Alabama live off campus or in a dorm on campus?
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