Tide Sports Reporting Tony Brown Arrest
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I may be in the minority but, if the PD statement of the facts is true, I hope he is suspended from all football activities for the semester. It is an honor and privilege to wear the Crimson jersey and I don't care how talented you are, act like a thug and you lose that privilege. I'm sorry but football is a team game and it's obvious Tony Brown was only thinking about himself...
??/How is acting like a thug??? Because he mouthed off?? People question why and what's the problem all the time...we see it of recorded footage all the time. But we don't know what actually happened. Let's not label this young man before he steps foot on the practice field. Calm down folks...
The fact he was told multiple times to leave and he didn't. The fact he used profanity towards the officer.... If the police tell you to leave, you leave. You don't keep running your mouth and curse at them. All that said, I trust Nick Saban to handle the situation and based on past history, I expect Tony Brown to be in the dog house....
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Its seems to that he was thinking about his friend instead of himself. Did he handle it correctly? No, but we don't even even know why his friend was being arrested. Maybe he thought his friend was wrongfully being arrested and attempting to take up for him. That doesn't make him a thug, IMO. It makes him a kid making a poor decision in my mind.
When I was about his age, I came within an eyelash of being arrested for losing my cool with a cop. I was coming back from the drag races in Montgomery (over 100 miles away from where I lived) one night late and I pulled over for no reason at all, except we were young guys in a car after 1:00 AM. I wasn't speeding, I wasn't swerving, or doing anything else illegal. The cop pulled me over and I was polite. I gave him my registration, insurance, card and license. I told him where we were coming from and told him we were going home. He took everything back to his car while his partner stayed at the back of my with his hand on his gun. He came back (after I finding nothing out of order) and made us all get out the car and searched my car. They ramsacked my glovebox, console, and trunk and found nothing. When they were done, I asked why he pulled me over and why they searched my car, and he would give me no answer. I asked again, and they kind of laughed. At that point, I lost my cool and told him "I appreciate you bleeping tearing my car apart for no bleeping reason!" He spins around and gets in my face screaming "Say something else!" - "Just give me a reason, big boy!" - "I'd love to take your --- to jail!" My instinct was to was jump on him, and it took all I could do not to.
Here was I standing on the side of the road being harrassed and taunted for no reason whatsover by an 5' 8" idiot on a power trip. They obviously had nothing better to do and decided to throw their weight around on a car load of kids from out of town.
I talked to my dad the next day and told him what happened. He gave me the best advice I've ever heard concerning that situation. He told me that day to never attempt to hold court on the side of the road, in a parking lot, or anywhere outside of a courthouse, because you were sure to lose.
Since that night, I take encounters with cops (especially concerning young people) with an open mind...
There is a wide range in defining "thug" amongst people, so debating a word is usually a dead end.
Getting arrested is serious, and a majority of people never get arrested, and supports the fact that cops normally don't arrest people for the heck of it. I say that we should let coach Saban decide the punishment but in the mean time we should neither dog or make excuses with rose colored glasses on.
If you do have a stance, try to be unbiased, like he is any other person.
Getting arrested is serious, and a majority of people never get arrested, and supports the fact that cops normally don't arrest people for the heck of it. I say that we should let coach Saban decide the punishment but in the mean time we should neither dog or make excuses with rose colored glasses on.
If you do have a stance, try to be unbiased, like he is any other person.
I posted this before the details in the story came out. NOw, I"m expecting him to miss one game this season.
Late nights, liquor, and bad decisions usually all go together.
Immature decision, it sounds like. I'm guessing he got the "don't get in trouble speech" from the staff, mabe from Coach Saban himself. He knew probably every step of the way of this incident, what the right choices were. He either ignored the right decisions, or was incapable of making the right choices, either way shame on him.
And those of you who use the "we all made mistakes when we were young and stupid" argument, should agree that some sort of punishment is in order.
And finally, there are tens of thousands of Alabama students who never get arrested each and every year. Make a decision not to be in a place where you could get arrested. Take your girl to Chick Fil A, rent a movie, play xbox, hang out and talk, whatever....but Mr Brown made some obviously bad decisions, regardless of what anyone else did.
Immature decision, it sounds like. I'm guessing he got the "don't get in trouble speech" from the staff, mabe from Coach Saban himself. He knew probably every step of the way of this incident, what the right choices were. He either ignored the right decisions, or was incapable of making the right choices, either way shame on him.
And those of you who use the "we all made mistakes when we were young and stupid" argument, should agree that some sort of punishment is in order.
And finally, there are tens of thousands of Alabama students who never get arrested each and every year. Make a decision not to be in a place where you could get arrested. Take your girl to Chick Fil A, rent a movie, play xbox, hang out and talk, whatever....but Mr Brown made some obviously bad decisions, regardless of what anyone else did.
I generally do not trust police, but respect their position of power. If Brown did nothing more than shout profanity at the police, he has shown a very low level of maturity. He did not understand his danger at that point in time, or the power of the police. The things described in the report are not "thuggish" to me - they sound like the actions of a young man who is concerned about a friend in police custody.
The police used pepper spray on this young man, so they are going to justify that use of force. He is going to have to pay the piper, so to speak. But I certainly wouldn't label him without seeing how he responds to this lesson.
The police used pepper spray on this young man, so they are going to justify that use of force. He is going to have to pay the piper, so to speak. But I certainly wouldn't label him without seeing how he responds to this lesson.
One thing that has not been discussed...
Is there a size disparity between Tony Brown and the Officer he advanced on?
It's no excuse either way, but told to back off, and you keep returning and possibly advancing on the Officer shouting profanities... That's one of the things the officer will mention in court.
The use of Pepper Spray depends on the jurisdiction.
Example: In the City of Gadsden the use of Pepper Spray came right after 'Verbal Direction'
in the Use of Force Continuum.
When he ignored warnings from the officers, and advanced on the officers, he crossed the line and by our Directives the next step was Pepper Spray.
Now days Pepper Spray is not as popular as the Taser for an 'Intermediate Weapon'.
Tony Brown made a couple of immature decisions that landed him in trouble.
Probably not a thug, but he has a lesson to learn about authority.
Just glad he didn't question the authority of anyone on our staff.
Is there a size disparity between Tony Brown and the Officer he advanced on?
It's no excuse either way, but told to back off, and you keep returning and possibly advancing on the Officer shouting profanities... That's one of the things the officer will mention in court.
The use of Pepper Spray depends on the jurisdiction.
Example: In the City of Gadsden the use of Pepper Spray came right after 'Verbal Direction'
in the Use of Force Continuum.
When he ignored warnings from the officers, and advanced on the officers, he crossed the line and by our Directives the next step was Pepper Spray.
Now days Pepper Spray is not as popular as the Taser for an 'Intermediate Weapon'.
Tony Brown made a couple of immature decisions that landed him in trouble.
Probably not a thug, but he has a lesson to learn about authority.
Just glad he didn't question the authority of anyone on our staff.
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Not the best way to start your college career. Or make good impressiosns for the coaching staff.
Hopefully he wasn't drinking the liquor! That's underage drinking to go on top of it all.
I too had one of these in my younger days...I wasn't there to witness TB situation and will not judge him for standing up for a friend. Loyality goes a long way...
Regardless of how or why he was arrested, if this was in fact at a party it seems to me that there were several other folks there that know how to act and were not arrested. The kid may not be a thug but he sure is a dumb...... Maybe he needs to watch Chris Rock's how to keep your ..... out of jail video. Now go pay your fine or defend your case, run the bleachers until you puke (repeat repeat repeat) and finally keep your damn mouth shut when dealing with the 5-0. Im sorry guys but Ive been pulled over several times myself and Ive been to parties where the police showed up and some were arrested but I guess Im in the minority because in each instance I never had a bad incounter other than maybe one of the cops being a little edgy, but its cool the dudes have a tough job that lots of folks don't want to do.
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I'm just going to chalk this one up to being and 18 year old kid who lacks the maturity to understand where he is. I'm sure the leadership of the team and coaching staff will illustrate that for him in the coming months. It's possible a big football star can get away with lots of stuff in Beaumont, Texas but this is Alabama. You can't sling a stick without hitting a future 1st round draft pick.
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