Pat Sajak - People concerned about climate change are racists
- Thread starter Displaced Bama Fan
- Start date
First, we don't have enough data over a measurable period of time to know what the normal temperature of the Earth is supposed to be. Our equipment used to measure it has become more sophisticated, and may actually just be more accurate than in years past.
Second....we are a tiny planet in a very large solar system, with an orbit that is not a perfect circle, around an unstable (temp wise) star that often puts out bursts of energy.
Third, is it possible that the PhDs get this grant money from Uncle Sam, and it's in their best interest financially, and egotistically for there to be man-made global warming?
Finally, let's say there is warming....and let's say that in seventy years, the temperature will go up 2 degrees, how do we stop it?
We can't even make it rain to water a drought stricken area, but we have the power to alter a climate?
Follow the money, and you will understand climate change.
Second....we are a tiny planet in a very large solar system, with an orbit that is not a perfect circle, around an unstable (temp wise) star that often puts out bursts of energy.
Third, is it possible that the PhDs get this grant money from Uncle Sam, and it's in their best interest financially, and egotistically for there to be man-made global warming?
Finally, let's say there is warming....and let's say that in seventy years, the temperature will go up 2 degrees, how do we stop it?
We can't even make it rain to water a drought stricken area, but we have the power to alter a climate?
Follow the money, and you will understand climate change.
Agreed. We are collectively a mass of tiny specs running around on a tiny spec of a ball in an indescribably large universe. We don't have the power to do anything. We can't make it rain and we can't stop it from raining. We can neither increase nor decrease the temperatures for any given region on any certain day.
True, the weather forecasters are getting better in being able to predict how the weather is going to be for the next few days, possibly the next week or so. But it is all we can do to wait and watch it happen. We can't do anything to stop it or control in in any fashion.
That said, how is it possible that we can cause it?
So in a nutshell the argument is this.
I don't believe what all of the scientists are saying because they are corrupt. There is no way that we could possibly have any effect on the environment. But, if I am wrong, there is no way we can do anything to fix it anyways so lets do nothing.
I don't believe what all of the scientists are saying because they are corrupt. There is no way that we could possibly have any effect on the environment. But, if I am wrong, there is no way we can do anything to fix it anyways so lets do nothing.
I see this and call BS.
TELL ME SPECIFICALLY how to stop it.
Or shut up.
If you don't know the answer to that then even if you're right it doesn't make any difference. ("you" can be generic here, I'm obviously not applying it solely to you).
Give me the list of 100 things, 10 things that will actually have any effect. And "reduce carbon emissions" is a non-answer if SCIENCE is what you're into. Tell me HOW.
- stop driving cars?
- stop eating red meat? (pardon me, but wouldn't just killing all cows be more effective if global warming is what you want to stop?)
If you can't even tell me how to stop what you insist is happening, why should I give you one thin dime?
Obviously I don't agree that climate change supporters are racist but, I agree with him that it's all about the money and not the planet. Climate change has become a very big business, there are plenty of people and businesses that need climate change to be a big problem so they can sell their overpriced "green" items. Spend twice as much on this bottle of detergent because it is "green" and will save the planet, etc.
Does anyone else find it funny that "green", the color of money, is the term used to describe this industry. They are not even trying to hide what they are all about, and it ain't the planet.
Does anyone else find it funny that "green", the color of money, is the term used to describe this industry. They are not even trying to hide what they are all about, and it ain't the planet.
I just thought it was weird he called everyone racists. Maybe that was his way of drawing attention to it. I don't know.
I could be incorrect, but it seems that you are looking for a way to guarantee that carbon emission reduction, limitation of whale farts, or some other recommended uncomfortable lifestyle change will directly improve the situation in a measurable and observable way in your lifetime or else it is not worth doing. Technically, if I got my math correct, you are looking for 100 things, and only expecting that 10% of them will directly affect the situation in what could be deemed a positive manner.
I am no climate scientist, heck I wouldn't even qualify myself as anything but a science geek, but even in relatively simple systems the scientific process doesn't work like this. There isn't some magic insight that someone can have (in general terms, very smart people at some times in history have had epiphanies, however likely due to years and years of hard work) and be able to also guarantee that their idea has some measurable payoff. It is often a guessing game, based off of educated guesses as to the way things work, that given some amount of funding, eventually builds upon the mountain of knowledge, or at least closes off that idea as not being worthwhile. Why did I delve off into what you likely understand quite well? Scientists don't give guarantees, the only person who would give a guarantee is a politician, and only those who don't understand science or are unwilling to accept that "I don't know" is a viable answer would expect that guarantee.
Saying that, I think it is unrealistic to expect any guarantees for a given solution, much less 10%.
Now this is my belief about why many are unwilling to attempt to even have the conversation about climate change being real. We as a species do not do well operating with the macro. We handle the micro extremely well. Am I hungry? Eat. Am I cold? Find shelter. What are all of the effects of rising carbon emissions as a result of human existence during the time that we first started domesticating animals and burning carbon to stay warm? ????
However there are some tools, principally mathematics and the scientific method that can help break down that last macro question into a micro question. Is there a statistical significance between carbon emissions due to human activity and the rise in global temperature? Yes (But obviously some don't want to believe it)
You asked for 10 things out of 100 that I or a climate scientist could guarantee would measurably affect the climate in what would be considered a positive way (slow increase in change or eventual reduction) and I frankly don't have that list. What I and climate scientists do have, is studies that show a significant correlation between human activities related to carbon emissions and the rise in global temperatures. Even if someone were foolish enough to try and guarantee that a change in policy would make a difference, the likelihood that you or I would be around to witness the result is slim.
I don't really have a great analogy but I can try. Lets say that someone has stuck their hand in a fire, and they start noticing their hand getting burned. Someone points to a study that shows fire produces heat, and heat creates burns, so maybe taking your hand out of the fire would make it feel better. The person with their hand in the fire now wants a guarantee that their hand will be 100% better when they pull it out, or else why should they bother.
It really is a crappy analogy I know, but here is the kicker. There are tons of people with their hand in the fire acting as if maybe that is just the way their hand should feel. Who's to say it wouldn't feel that way anyways because thats just how hands work, and since hands are so complex, nothing they do could possibly have any impact on whether their hand is in pain or not.
Last edited:
I'm getting burned by the government. I want to pull away. Government apologist tell me more government will cure my problem. They are liars.
And here's where most people (like myself) take issue. Our government (and others who believe every word they say, seebell says "HI!") want us to spend untold amounts of money (which will come out of taxpayer's wallets) toward something that is admittedly nothing more than a guessing game and educated guesses. It's much like the recent gluten fear mongering. Scientists (for some 10-15 years now) have preached like the gospel about all the bad things gluten does to the body. It has created a billion dollar market, caused people who have fell for the fear mongering to spend double on gluten free foods than what they normally would. Only to now find out that these same researchers are now saying what they'd been preaching for the last decade or so isn't true. That only gluten intolerant people are effected, which is about 1% of our society.
This is the problem with our science community. They are so arrogant and convinced as to how freakin' smart they are that (as in the gluten issue) they preach things as "fact" that in reality aren't. They're simply theories. When they preach things as "fact" it causes people to change their behavior, creates markets, causes government to want to spend billions and billions of dollars based on what is nothing more than theories. But I think the true answer is in the $$$$. As someone has alluded to, follow the $$$$ and that will lead you to the truth.
Last edited:
No, you're not the only one. It's frankly much ado about nothing in my opinion.
Regarding the tweet about climate change alarmists being racist, I personally think they are more elitist, but I can also see an argument for calling them racists. They are racists in the sense that they want to prevent the economic development of third world countries. They are elitists in the sense that their policies will mean that those with money will be the only ones to have access to sufficient energy to live lives of comfort.
I agree with you Buzz, and I (and others) have been saying that ever since it was first proposed that the government could "fix" the "problem". The fact that global warming was described as having only problems and no benefits sounded the first alarm. The fact that one could tell ahead of time that corn ethanol would cause more harm than benefit was another alarm. Al Gore (and others) getting wealthy preaching their hypocrisy. Solyndra. T. Boone Pickens and his bird-killing windmill farms. The Kennedys opposing windmills off shore because it would disrupt their view. The complete cost ineffectiveness of solar. And so on. And so on. Every proposed government solution is a fraud or a failure (- a lot of alarms to those who pay attention). No thank you.
separate the issue here people
is global warming real and is man contributing to it. It has taken me years to get here but unfortunately the answer is Yes. I can't claim to believe in Science and say otherwise
Can our Government do anything to help? The unfortunate answer is No. The issue has been politicised by both sides to the extent that every "solution" is simply a power grab or a way to pay off a favored group.
I have no answers other than the realization that we may very well be screwed
is global warming real and is man contributing to it. It has taken me years to get here but unfortunately the answer is Yes. I can't claim to believe in Science and say otherwise
Can our Government do anything to help? The unfortunate answer is No. The issue has been politicised by both sides to the extent that every "solution" is simply a power grab or a way to pay off a favored group.
I have no answers other than the realization that we may very well be screwed
sorry, huge believer in GMO here, billions would be starving right now without them
Washington doesn't solve problems, they make their living figuring out the best way to benefit themselves from problems.
Trending content
Latest threads
-
ESPN: 'Always a race': How Rueben Bain Jr., Akeem Mesidor have driven Miami and each other- Started by TideFans Reporter
- Replies: 0
-
ESPN: How Pete Golding got Ole Miss in the CFP semifinals amid coaching turmoil
- Started by TideFans Reporter
- Replies: 0
-
ICE Officer Kills Motorist In Minneapolis- Started by Its On A Slab
- Replies: 13
-
-
ESPN: 'This is one of the big moments in college football': Demond Williams Jr.'s case will test if contracts can be enforced
- Started by TideFans Reporter
- Replies: 0
-
