Pick the score: Alabama vs. Clemson NCG

[Nolan]

Clemson also hasn't played for a title in 34 years. History doesn't have any bearing on this game.

Edit: Yeah, you have. http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=340020333

Well, if you didn't watch that game then take a closer look at the scoring plays. You'll see that Oklahoma returned a sack-fumble for a TD with very little time left in the game. Either way, we played very poorly, and lost by 14 points. That's the largest deficit we've lost by in 8 years. That's what other posters were trying to tell you.

You know we're used to every top 10 team we beat being renamed bad teams. We're also used to people telling us we're going to lose to those teams the week before because they are much better than Clemson.

Yes, that tends to happen when you beat them - they fall out of the top 10. But no one gets that rub quite like Alabama. The teams we beat "weren't that good" to begin with. Your team is cultivating critics. Enjoy it, it's a sign of success.

 

[RammerJammer14]

Turnovers mainly. We'll sell out to stop the run and force Coker to pass. The only problem is the Clemson secondary is a bit more formidable than Sparty's.

A couple of short field situations can lead to quick points.

Every game is different obviously. But y'all are negative in turnover margin. We are essentially +8 or +10 on you.

What makes you think this will suddenly be a turnover bonanza for Bama?


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[rgw]

If early-season Coker rolls out of that tunnel, sure. If the Coker we've seen in the second half of the season shows up one more time, I'm much more confident in our ability to value the football.


Our TO margin steadily improved after that -5 TO margin Ole Miss game. He had one more game where he had a big problem with throwing up for anybody in the stadium to avoid the pass rush against Arkansas but he's only had one instance of that since then (against Mississippi State early in the game). I think he's only had two INTs since that Arkansas game with two really bad picks: 1 bad one against Clanga, 1 misread on a fake bubble wheel route against Tennessee. Gotta say I didn't expect him to be under 10 INTs when he had 6 in mid-October. He's done a much better job with handling pressure and the OL has done their part to keep him cleaner and less hectic in the pocket.

 

[robertn]

Every game is different obviously. But y'all are negative in turnover margin. We are essentially +8 or +10 on you.

What makes you think this will suddenly be a turnover bonanza for Bama?


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If early-season Coker rolls out of that tunnel, sure. If the Coker we've seen in the second half of the season shows up one more time, I'm much more confident in our ability to value the football.


Our TO margin steadily improved after that -5 TO margin Ole Miss game. He had one more game where he had a big problem with throwing up for anybody in the stadium to avoid the pass rush against Arkansas but he's only had one instance of that since then (against Mississippi State early in the game). I think he's only had two INTs since that Arkansas game with two really bad picks: 1 bad one against Clanga, 1 misread on a fake bubble wheel route against Tennessee. Gotta say I didn't expect him to be under 10 INTs when he had 6 in mid-October. He's done a much better job with handling pressure and the OL has done their part to keep him cleaner and less hectic in the pocket.

Our +7 turnover margin against ranked opponents.

 

[Jim4Bama]

First post....Let's see...
Alabama 35
Clemson 14

 

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

Really?

Our +7 turnover margin against ranked opponents.

 

[RammerJammer14]

Our +7 turnover margin against ranked opponents.

So manipulating stats until they fit your narrative. Got it.

Alabama averages +2 turnovers and has shut out all opponents in the playoff this year.

 

[rgw]

Do you mean currently ranked? I see that the ND game was 4-1 in Clemson's favor; two other 2-1 games (UNC, OU); 1 2-0 game (FSU).

I've said this as a positive for Clemson in the past, so I'll say it here as a demerit: that ND game played in a hurricane is a throwaway for analysis. I don't really think ND's defense could keep Clemson's offense under 30 in "clean" circumstances. ND has always kinda been high turnover but that was a sloppy game...I seem to remember one of those picks being when the WR had some trouble with the field and just didn't make his spot.

Still the takeaway from this on the balance is they've won the margin in these games...the +7 number is kinda inflated by a slop-game in my opinion.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

We probably could have in the east.

I compliment you. You've handled yourself well, considering your home board. You've been able to discuss the game rationally and kept, well, most of your homerism out of it. I must admit that, when I saw your initial score prediction, I thought "Oh no, here comes another one." Do you really think you can score that many points against us?

 

[rgw]

I just did the numbers on Alabama and it is impressive that Alabama finished + in turnover margin v. ranked teams (whether Florida ends up there or not) considering that you'd assume that -5 against Ole Miss would crater a stat like that. Only +1 but still...could've been better if not for own slop game @UGA being only +2 due to two fumbles on routine stuff.

 

[robertn]

I compliment you. You've handled yourself well, considering your home board. You've been able to discuss the game rationally and kept, well, most of your homerism out of it. I must admit that, when I saw your initial score prediction, I thought "Oh no, here comes another one." Do you really think you can score that many points against us?

Thanks, my prediction is a sloppy game with turnovers. One of those that's hard to imagine happening, but this has been a crazy season with crazy finishes all over the country.

I'm predicting a defensive touchdown and a couple busted coverages for the rest of the points as well as a few short fields.

Is it unlikely, maybe. But as one of your posters said earlier, pick not predict the score.

 

[Bama Lee]

Bama 38
Clemson 23

 

[bama2112]

Every game is different obviously. But y'all are negative in turnover margin. We are essentially +8 or +10 on you.

What makes you think this will suddenly be a turnover bonanza for Bama?

Interesting stat no team with a negative turnover ratio has won the National Championship in the last 20 years. And Clemson is -3 . This was a stat ESPN put up in the game vs OU.

 

[B1GTide]

Thanks, my prediction is a sloppy game with turnovers. One of those that's hard to imagine happening, but this has been a crazy season with crazy finishes all over the country.

I'm predicting a defensive touchdown and a couple busted coverages for the rest of the points as well as a few short fields.

Is it unlikely, maybe. But as one of your posters said earlier, pick not predict the score.

I appreciate your support of your team, but I think that you are whistling past the grave yard and I think that you know it. No reasonable person who follows college football would predict Alabama giving up 38 points.

 

[robertn]

I appreciate your support of your team, but I think that you are whistling past the grave yard and I think that you know it. No reasonable person who follows college football would predict Alabama giving up 38 points.

FWIW it will probably be much closer than that, but the best team that Bama played this year scored more than 40.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Thanks, my prediction is a sloppy game with turnovers. One of those that's hard to imagine happening, but this has been a crazy season with crazy finishes all over the country.

I'm predicting a defensive touchdown and a couple busted coverages for the rest of the points as well as a few short fields.

Is it unlikely, maybe. But as one of your posters said earlier, pick not predict the score.

I'll ask a question then. Do you have as little regard for Coker as most of your fellow members on your board?

 

[TIDE-HSV]

FWIW it will probably be much closer than that, but the best team that Bama played this year scored more than 40.

Yes, with 5 TOs and a TD off a ball bounced off a helmet. Otherwise, it would not have been nearly that...

 

[robertn]

I'll ask a question then. Do you have as little regard for Coker as most of your fellow members on your board?

No. The kid is a winner. He's not Deshaun Watson, but he's no scrub.

Yes, with 5 TOs and a TD off a ball bounced off a helmet. Otherwise, it would not have been nearly that...

See my other posts re: turnovers.

 

[bama2112]

Turnovers mainly. We'll sell out to stop the run and force Coker to pass. The only problem is the Clemson secondary is a bit more formidable than Sparty's.

A couple of short field situations can lead to quick points.

I looked a couple of your boards today . Some of your fans are living the dream, or dreamland. I however did not post anything as it would only lead to hurt feelings there. No reason for that , this is just a game.

So Coker hasnt thrown an interception in 3 games now. Also, we didnt run the ball against Sparty. Kiffens game plan was simple, he knew they were going to make Coker beat them and he did. I think you have a well rounded ball club, but you also have played against a defensive line like this one.

This isnt the same team that gave up 5 turnovers to Ole Sis. Vegas has Bama a 7 point favorite and your picking Clemson to beat us by 12. Clemson's turnover ratio is a -3 and Bama is a plus 12. Just wanted to point out some facts so you not very disappointed if you miss you pick.

Originally Posted by robertn
FWIW it will probably be much closer than that, but the best team that Bama played this year scored more than 40.


The best Team we just played was ranked number 4 - this is based on the polls and the playoffs and we shut them out 38-0. Just because we did not beat Ole Miss how does that make them best team we played?

 

[robertn]

I looked a couple of your boards today . Some of your fans are living the dream, or dreamland. I however did not post anything as it would only lead to hurt feeling there. No reason for that , this is just a game.

So Coker hasnt thrown an interception in 3 games now. Also, we didnt run the ball against Sparty. Kiffens game plan was simple, he knew they were going to make Coker beat them and he did. I think you have a well rounded ball club, and I respect your moxy in your pick. This isnt the same team that gave up 5 turnovers to Ole Sis. Vegas has Bama a 7 point favorite and your picking Clemson to beat us by 12. Your turnover ratio is a -3 and Bama is a plus 12. Just wanted to point out some facts so you not very disappointed if you miss you guess.

Thanks.